Red Mosquito

stip wrote:You know I kept on wanting to make an analogy about trying to enjoy revenge of the sith while someone keeps screaming in your ear about how much Lucas sucks now, but I didn't want to put that image in peoples heads

Even though it's probably better than RotJ, you aren't allowed to say it.

malice wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:There's nothing noble about listening to a band making mediocre music in its third decade when there are bands making better music in their first out there. I don't know why people act like there is.

There's nothing noble about hanging around that band's message board, trying to convince everyone how terrible they are now. I don't know why people act like there is.

Some of us like talking about when they used to be great. But that's pretty conveniently ignored. For every member who gets accused of just being here to hate Pearl Jam, it's not hard to find a thread where they're basically cumming in their pants over something this band has done before. But that doesn't fit into the narrative that everyone is just here to hate the band.

This does nothing to negate his point

I'm arguing that I don't think anyone is here just to convince people that Pearl Jam is terrible now.

Well, maybe not exclusively.

There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

there's another guy here that makes threads about his eddie vedder projector... what's your point?

Just making conversation.

malice wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:There's nothing noble about listening to a band making mediocre music in its third decade when there are bands making better music in their first out there. I don't know why people act like there is.

There's nothing noble about hanging around that band's message board, trying to convince everyone how terrible they are now. I don't know why people act like there is.

Some of us like talking about when they used to be great. But that's pretty conveniently ignored. For every member who gets accused of just being here to hate Pearl Jam, it's not hard to find a thread where they're basically cumming in their pants over something this band has done before. But that doesn't fit into the narrative that everyone is just here to hate the band.

This does nothing to negate his point

I'm arguing that I don't think anyone is here just to convince people that Pearl Jam is terrible now.

Well, maybe not exclusively.

There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

there's another guy here that makes threads about his eddie vedder projector... what's your point?

That guy needs to post here more often.

Farmer John wrote:There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

Those were the shows where Ed and Jeff fed babies to lions while Stone shot heroin into his eyeballs on stage, right?

malice wrote:i mean if everyone who isn't cumming in their pants is by default instead posting gleeful smug reflexive viciousness in an attempt to make everyone hate pearl jam here, i suppose id' agree that it does nothing to negate his point.

the issue for me is that i don't see the conversations that occur in PJ Chat as gleeful smug reflexive viciousness - even when the griping it at its worst (best? I dunno) - I see it as a lot of high expectation that got toppled somewhere along the line and a desire to talk about that.
if that can't be included in the conversations within a pearl forum then where can it be talked about?

Then you're not reading very carefully.

At least speaking for myself, actual discussions about everything you just said are great and interesting. And you'll have to sift through an awful lot of angry or bitter or dismissive or condescending shit to find them. Some gifs too. They're there sometimes, but they're buried

There is a difference between conversations and people howling about how awful something sucks with such volume and energy and ubiquitousness that it becomes hard for those to enjoy it to enjoy it. And the fact that some people are tongue in cheek about it doesn't change that

Kind of like when people on the pit go after someone for being critical. I bet they don't understand why some people are put off by that either.


Rm is sometimes better than that dynamic. There are a lot of interesting and funny people here. But it used to always be better. And now it's just the same much of the time. And sometimes it is worse,

What if your friend bought you a ticket to see Pearl Jam, and you went, but when you got there instead of the band coming out and playing they just rolled out a huge Eddie Vedder projector? How sick would that be?

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

Those were the shows where Ed and Jeff fed babies to lions while Stone shot heroin into his eyeballs on stage, right?

lions to babies

otherwise yes

stip wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Cold Concession Confession.

Thank you. I was trying to remember the other name we had for that song

Which one did it end up being? I can't remember.

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

Those were the shows where Ed and Jeff fed babies to lions while Stone shot heroin into his eyeballs on stage, right?

Yes it is.

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

Those were the shows where Ed and Jeff fed babies to lions while Stone shot heroin into his eyeballs on stage, right?

Wendy Carlos's Twin

That's his sole purpose. And to call you an idiot.

They fed babies to lions much better when Jack was in the band.

Some of us like to talk about the fact that this band started out great (91-94), went into a period of self-imposed mediocrity (96-02) and then gradually started to come out of it (2006 onwards). Such people think this band is still pretty great in 2014. Not because they're 'good for their age', but because we prefer what they put out compared to any other band or musician in the present day. We truly believe the quality of their work now is better than anything they've done since their early heyday.

Yes, we exist. But we prefer to stay underground.

Lament wrote:They fed babies to lions much better when Jack was in the band.

They were a great band once....sighhh

Lament wrote:They fed babies to lions much better when Jack was in the band.

Matt feeds it to them too fast.

CopperTom wrote:

Lament wrote:They fed babies to lions much better when Jack was in the band.

Matt feeds it to them too fast.

It's cause he does so much cocaine before each show.

Which reminds me, where's Joey?

If people find it difficult to come onto a board and are faced with what seems like a majority of posters having an opinion they disagree with, I get that they may be a bit turned off. But that's their issue, not the posters with an alternative viewpoint. This place is night and day over most other message boards in terms of the discussions, intelligence and humor I find here, both in PJ Chat and Other Bands.

Farmer John wrote:

malice wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:

Lament wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

Lament wrote:There's nothing noble about listening to a band making mediocre music in its third decade when there are bands making better music in their first out there. I don't know why people act like there is.

There's nothing noble about hanging around that band's message board, trying to convince everyone how terrible they are now. I don't know why people act like there is.

Some of us like talking about when they used to be great. But that's pretty conveniently ignored. For every member who gets accused of just being here to hate Pearl Jam, it's not hard to find a thread where they're basically cumming in their pants over something this band has done before. But that doesn't fit into the narrative that everyone is just here to hate the band.

This does nothing to negate his point

I'm arguing that I don't think anyone is here just to convince people that Pearl Jam is terrible now.

Well, maybe not exclusively.

There is that one guy who seems like his sole purpose is to convince people that the Philly 2009 shows are the worst thing ever. At least is seems that way.

there's another guy here that makes threads about his eddie vedder projector... what's your point?

Just making conversation.

all I'm saying is post about what you enjoy (or what you don't I guess too - post whatever) and take the rest of it as other people posting the same.
I don't tend to look at what people say about pearl jam as a personal affront against my musical choices and opinions, i look at it as - that's where they are with pearl jam, good for them I guess. I honestly miss the days that I had that kind of emotional ties to these guys music. they were the greatest band in the world to me for a long time. things change is all that happens. I still like to read about it in PJ chat regardless. it's not a desire to get other people to hate them that brings me here, it's a desire to hang out on RM where I know it's ok to like or dislike stuff about their music without a need to defend it.

Joey just posted this picture on twitter with the text "BEST WEEKEND EVERRRRRRRRRRR!"

stip wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Nobody is contesting "change". They're contesting a shitty change.

It's not contesting change or not contesting change. It is the gleeful smug reflexive viciousness behind so much of it. In the same way that what is repulsive about the pit is not that they like the band. It's how they talk about it.

Happy birthday, Stip.

As your birthday present, here's this fucking conversation again.