Batman V: Superman Dawn of Justice

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Well

Great movie
8
20%
Good movie
16
40%
Just meh
10
25%
Marvel Universe wannabe
6
15%
 
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bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
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Human Bass wrote:I watched. It is a mess, but a fun one. It was clear how desperate DC is trying to rush things to catch up with Marvel.

Now, Batman had great physicallity, but totally unbelievable how he was fooled by silly provocations written in checks...I mean, how the hell the world greatest detective thought that was Superman doing that? And why so whiny about the death of his parents when he is a already mature Batman?

The fight between Bat and Super was cool, better than I expected. Although it could be easily avoided if Super had seated on the ground instead of walking foward.

The whole "dream in the desert" sequence was random and unecessary as fuck, like Snyder thought "it would be cool Batman fighting in Counter-Strike Dust, so let put this on the movie".

And Lex Luthor felt so pointless and without any real focus besides trolling. I guess in the beginning he wanted the prestige of creating a weapon useful against Superman, then he forgot about that.

And we had enough Snyder in our lives already.
Now, Batman had great physicallity, but totally unbelievable how he was fooled by silly provocations written in checks...I mean, how the hell the world greatest detective thought that was Superman doing that? And why so whiny about the death of his parents when he is a already mature Batman?
He wasn't supposed to think Superman had anything to do with the checks. They were just supposed to trigger him that he, yet again, let someone in his "family" die. It wasn't the most clever idea, but it completely works given that Bruce had already made his mind up about what he was planning to do.

The fight between Bat and Super was cool, better than I expected. Although it could be easily avoided if Super had seated on the ground instead of walking foward.
To make this scene better you wanted Superman to act like a toddler?

The whole "dream in the desert" sequence was random and unecessary as fuck, like Snyder thought "it would be cool Batman fighting in Counter-Strike Dust, so let put this on the movie".
This was one of those many moments where the movie isn't holding your hand. I think this scene just totally went over your head, but it made total sense. Just read up about Injustice (or full on read the comics. They are outstanding!).

And Lex Luthor felt so pointless and without any real focus besides trolling. I guess in the beginning he wanted the prestige of creating a weapon useful against Superman, then he forgot about that.
He looked pretty happy that Batman had stolen the weapon. Almost as if things were going according to his plans...
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
Well it allowed the audience to see Batman's fear of a out of control Superman and why he felt he needed to put Supes down.
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Human Bass what are your thoughts on that totally random and meaningless inverted painting
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bada wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
Well it allowed the audience to see Batman's fear of a out of control Superman and why he felt he needed to put Supes down.
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HardTI wrote: He looked pretty happy that Batman had stolen the weapon. Almost as if things were going according to his plans...
I'm not convinced Lex was in control of himself at any time during the movie. I think he was under the influence of Darkseid.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
Well it allowed the audience to see Batman's fear of a out of control Superman and why he felt he needed to put Supes down.
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10+ viewings and I still don't understand Pa Kent's scene...
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10+ viewings?!
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HardTI wrote:10+ viewings and I still don't understand Pa Kent's scene...

I think mostly it was about the unintended consequences of our actions and how you can't let guilt of those consequences paralyze you into inaction but you need to learn from them.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:10+ viewings?!
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Ma and Pa Kent definitely taught Clark from the How To Raise A Millennial Handbook. Do you best honey and if they don't like it F em. :D
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bada wrote:
HardTI wrote:10+ viewings and I still don't understand Pa Kent's scene...

I think mostly it was about the unintended consequences of our actions and how you can't let guilt of those consequences paralyze you into inaction but you need to learn from them.
Yes, and I think it's also an interesting counterpoint to Batman's visions. The mortal man has visions of doom at the hands of a god, while the god has visions of quiet humanity.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:
HardTI wrote:10+ viewings and I still don't understand Pa Kent's scene...

I think mostly it was about the unintended consequences of our actions and how you can't let guilt of those consequences paralyze you into inaction but you need to learn from them.
Yes, and I think it's also an interesting counterpoint to Batman's visions. The mortal man has visions of doom at the hands of a god, while the god has visions of quiet humanity.
I dig that a lot, actually! Thanks fellas.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Human Bass wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:In most circles, I don't understand people's complaints about this movie because I think they're dumb. In this thread, I literally don't understand the complaints.
What you didn't understand?
I don't know, I think you were accusing Snyder of artificial leg-thickening or something
He clearly did some body-thickening in that scene, both Bat and WW loocked extra thick.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
I don't agree with that.

But man do I tend to hate visions/dreams in films. There's usually a better way. But I'll wait to see this before I'm too hard on how it's used in this movie. Every once in a while they work well enough that I can let them go.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
I don't agree with that.

But man do I tend to hate visions/dreams in films. There's usually a better way. But I'll wait to see this before I'm too hard on how it's used in this movie. Every once in a while they work well enough that I can let them go.
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I do generally agree with you on that, Joey. But I think Snyder's execution was wonderful here.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
bada wrote:The desert scene was Batman getting a vision (presumably being sent to him by the Flash) of the future with an corrupted Superman under the control of Darkseid and Batman leading the resistance. Synder was using as little known literary tool called foreshadowing.
Yeah but if it doesn't immediately advance the plot then it is unnecessary so cut that shit out
I don't agree with that.

But man do I tend to hate visions/dreams in films. There's usually a better way. But I'll wait to see this before I'm too hard on how it's used in this movie. Every once in a while they work well enough that I can let them go.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:I do generally agree with you on that, Joey. But I think Snyder's execution was wonderful here.
I'll keep an open mind for sure. I love Batman so much. I want all his stuff to be fantastic.
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