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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 8:41 pm
by Anders
Looking forward to the debate.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 8:46 pm
by liebzz
Anders wrote:Looking forward to the debate.
In all the political seasons going as far back as Clinton/Dole, I looked forward to the debates.

This year not so much. The vernacular around Trump is so devoid of actual facts, and that the moderator won’t hold them to facts at all, spells misleading disaster all over it. It’s not going to go well for anyone.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 8:48 pm
by Strat
yea but $70,000 on....that fucking hair? C'mon. Geezes.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 8:48 pm
by Peeps
Strat wrote:yea but $70,000 on....that fucking hair? C'mon. Geezes.
yeabutt AOC spent 250.....

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 8:51 pm
by dad
Remember when everyone made a deal out of John Edwards getting a $400 haircut?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 9:41 pm
by Strat
remember when Trump has paid more for sex than in federal taxes?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 12:56 am
by 96583UP
sadly i dont think anyone cares about his taxes

but trump would care if they made it a point of emphasis that he is not rich

it would look petty to some

but if they want to set him off, that's the pressure point

he is nothing without his 'money'

make sure people know

he has no money

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 1:14 am
by The Town
96583UP wrote:sadly i dont think anyone cares about his taxes

but trump would care if they made it a point of emphasis that he is not rich

it would look petty to some

but if they want to set him off, that's the pressure point

he is nothing without his 'money'

make sure people know

he has no money
Yes! The more petty the better with Trump.
Let's see how low he can be taken.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 3:38 am
by Higgs
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
96583UP wrote:welp guess when you file for bankruptcy multiple times you have a lot of losses to carry forward
Losses would usually be in the companies. How does Trump as an individual earn a wage and not pay some proportionate level of tax?

I'd find it difficult to believe he had personal losses large enough to eat up his obviously very substantial wage income for so many years.

And surely bankruptcy would forfeit losses in the same way it forfeits claimable expenses? I mean, if you call bankruptcy and that means your creditors can no longer make you pay, surely you can't then continue to rely on those same expenses to then allow carry forward losses.
Why would Trump have any wage income? If he was the pincipal of those enterprises that went bankrupt (and likely was) wouldn't his compensation have been equity in said ventures?
POTUS wage is $400,000pa. He paid $750 in taxes in 2017 - as POTUS.

I take your point re: wages from failed companies. However he still needs to show how he can support himself from a pure, non-deductible personal cost of living perspective. Who's paying for all those costs for him, if not via some form of personal income. Private expenses aren't tax deductible and have to be paid from somewhere.

I'm of course coming at this from an Australian tax perspective, however the basic principles will surely be the same.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 6:06 am
by simple schoolboy
Higgs wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
96583UP wrote:welp guess when you file for bankruptcy multiple times you have a lot of losses to carry forward
Losses would usually be in the companies. How does Trump as an individual earn a wage and not pay some proportionate level of tax?

I'd find it difficult to believe he had personal losses large enough to eat up his obviously very substantial wage income for so many years.

And surely bankruptcy would forfeit losses in the same way it forfeits claimable expenses? I mean, if you call bankruptcy and that means your creditors can no longer make you pay, surely you can't then continue to rely on those same expenses to then allow carry forward losses.
Why would Trump have any wage income? If he was the pincipal of those enterprises that went bankrupt (and likely was) wouldn't his compensation have been equity in said ventures?
POTUS wage is $400,000pa. He paid $750 in taxes in 2017 - as POTUS.

I take your point re: wages from failed companies. However he still needs to show how he can support himself from a pure, non-deductible personal cost of living perspective. Who's paying for all those costs for him, if not via some form of personal income. Private expenses aren't tax deductible and have to be paid from somewhere.

I'm of course coming at this from an Australian tax perspective, however the basic principles will surely be the same.


Pretty sure he's been donating his Presidential wages to the treasury. Also, whats the likelihood that government officials get taxed at a normal rate as us mere private citizens?

I'm confused, and no one has cleared it up for me, as he paid 1 point something million to the treasury in 2016 and 2.4 million in 2017 and somehow this ends up with him paying $750 in taxes? Are these payments rolling over from previous years or what?

Clearly one must have enough money to pay for a good accountant to figure this shit out.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 11:20 am
by B
96583UP wrote:sadly i dont think anyone cares about his taxes
The Republicans make people care about nothing burgers all the time. For once, the Dems don't have to Poindexter the public with long explanations. 4 characters. $750. Over and over and over for 5 weeks. Whatever other loser strategy the DNC is pushing doesn't matter. $750.

People won't be able to get it out of their heads.

$750.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 11:24 am
by wease
Remember in the debate with her, he told Hillary not paying takes makes him smart? It had no bearing on the outcome then and it won’t now.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 1:26 pm
by B
$750 is the cost of a pretty good TV at Costco.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 1:58 pm
by JuanHamm
B, people don't care that he's a rapist, they aren't going to care about his taxes.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 2:23 pm
by Orpheus
2016: "Immigrants don't pay taxes and are a drain on our society" (They do, in droves)

2020: "Donald Trump is smart to not pay taxes, that's just being a good businessman"

Shoot these people into the fucking sun.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 2:29 pm
by B
JuanHamm wrote:B, people don't care that he's a rapist, they aren't going to care about his taxes.
Donald Trump spent thousands on legal feels related to his rapes, but only $750 in taxes.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 2:29 pm
by B
The Republicans make people care about nothing burgers all the time. For once, the Dems don't have to Poindexter the public with long explanations. 4 characters. $750. Over and over and over for 5 weeks. Whatever other loser strategy the DNC is pushing doesn't matter. $750.

People won't be able to get it out of their heads.

$750.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 3:40 pm
by McParadigm
I get why the taxes thing resonates with people, but it’s the liquidating of all his stocks and bonds in 2014 and the taking on of $420 million in short return personal debt that make him appear financially unstable and potentially beholden his creditors.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 3:45 pm
by doug rr
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue September 29, 2020 3:47 pm
by dad
bully for you