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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 1:31 am
by guitar_davey
96583UP wrote:and would posit that spritzy punkers include a snappy, uninspired snare
Yeah, the spritzy punk PJ tunes tend to have really basic drums. Again, Supersonic is one of the worst offenders. Sorry, Matt.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 2:03 am
by Tj
Ask yourselves this . Does Earthling have post Binaural squirting punker. I say no. Rose is Close as is Try but the are something else.. Do you believe Ed left to his own devices would create a album full of spritz punters I believe he would. Maybe Andrew fixed spritz by decarbonating the fizz a bit. Oddly Mike best moments are on squiters. How in the hell did the Ramones sell so many shirts .? They wrote only spritz punkers. Do you see where I am taking you ? This all circles back to the PRAMG..I Funko poops are spritz action figures so are Mr potato heads.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 2:04 am
by tragabigzanda
The worst part about the spritzy songs is Matt’s hi hat. Wrong tone and he doesn’t know how to finesse it like Jack. White noise.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:02 am
by Fattie_Vedder
Tj wrote:Ask yourselves this . Does Earthling have post Binaural squirting punker. I say no. Rose is Close as is Try but the are something else.. Do you believe Ed left to his own devices would create a album full of spritz punters I believe he would. Maybe Andrew fixed spritz by decarbonating the fizz a bit. Oddly Mike best moments are on squiters. How in the hell did the Ramones sell so many shirts .? They wrote only spritz punkers. Do you see where I am taking you ? This all circles back to the PRAMG..I Funko poops are spritz action figures so are Mr potato heads.
You bring up a good point. We shouldn’t conflate spritzy with punker. They are often correlated but separate. Non-punkers can have spritzy qualities too.
Exhibit A: Let The Records Play
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:05 am
by Jaeti
Big Wave? I say nay.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:25 am
by Fattie_Vedder
Jaeti wrote:Big Wave? I say nay.
Maybe it fits into the occasional leakage category? It’s not a punker; definitely hard rock. Ed reaches 70-80% of squawk threshold. Waves and surfing: squirt alert. Featured in the underrated animated film, Surf’s Up: kinda cool actually.
As much as I enjoy the outro of that song, I find the rest of it grating.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:33 am
by Tj
Then there is of course spritz folkers Swallowed Hole and I'll Be Waitng maybe Setting Forth has a little squirt to it
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 11:24 am
by Ms Harmless
guitar_davey wrote:96583UP wrote:and would posit that spritzy punkers include a snappy, uninspired snare
Yeah, the spritzy punk PJ tunes tend to have really basic drums. Again, Supersonic is one of the worst offenders. Sorry, Matt.
that song may have begun as Matt's song but it ended as Ed's
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 2:52 pm
by Happy Trees
Jaeti wrote:Big Wave? I say nay.
Too many time signature shifts to be spritzy.
I was surprised that Jeff wrote it because I was sure it had something to do with Matt.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 1:51 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Is Why Can't You See the new single title?
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 2:23 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Lounge Lizard wrote:Is Why Can't You See the new single title?
Sure is!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 2:24 pm
by dad
the font choice is my favorite.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 2:25 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dad wrote:the font choice is my favorite.
Ed must've picked it
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 2:31 pm
by Lounge Lizard
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dad wrote:the font choice is my favorite.
Ed must've picked it
More proof Jeff hasn't yet heard anything about the new album
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 9:08 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:Is Why Can't You See the new single title?
Sure is!

Is this the Ruddo accounts best post ever? It might be. And I say, we're all better for it.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Tue October 17, 2023 9:27 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I just like to picture him adjusting his little dolls to stage the perfect picture.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri October 20, 2023 10:20 am
by tragabigzanda
From pitchfork’s review of Hackney Diamonds:
This is the first Stones album Watt has produced—not bad, since it’s only the fifth they’ve released since his birth. Still, he’s been here before. Apart from albums by Post Malone, Miley Cyrus, and Justin Bieber, Watt has helmed sessions by Ozzy Osbourne, Iggy Pop, and Elton John (a frequent guest on Hackney Diamonds). In this realm, Watt is the antithesis of Rick Rubin. Rather than lean into the age and experience of his elders, he drags them toward the present, goading them to sound like their younger selves within ill-fitting contemporary settings. For the Stones, Watt favors the molds of circa-millennium alternative rock, from Collective Soul to Franz Ferdinand, then buffs the results until they gleam like sickly wax figures. Jagger, terrifyingly, has never sounded so youthful. Keith Richards has rarely sounded so normal, his solos all exercises in convention and efficiency. Imagine upgrading a classic muscle car, say the MG Midget or a 1967 Shelby Cobra, with cheap but shiny plastic parts. Posed, patched, and polished until the actual character has all but disappeared, that’s how Hackney Diamonds sounds.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri October 20, 2023 10:53 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:From pitchfork’s review of Hackney Diamonds:
This is the first Stones album Watt has produced—not bad, since it’s only the fifth they’ve released since his birth. Still, he’s been here before. Apart from albums by Post Malone, Miley Cyrus, and Justin Bieber, Watt has helmed sessions by Ozzy Osbourne, Iggy Pop, and Elton John (a frequent guest on Hackney Diamonds). In this realm, Watt is the antithesis of Rick Rubin. Rather than lean into the age and experience of his elders, he drags them toward the present, goading them to sound like their younger selves within ill-fitting contemporary settings. For the Stones, Watt favors the molds of circa-millennium alternative rock, from Collective Soul to Franz Ferdinand, then buffs the results until they gleam like sickly wax figures. Jagger, terrifyingly, has never sounded so youthful. Keith Richards has rarely sounded so normal, his solos all exercises in convention and efficiency. Imagine upgrading a classic muscle car, say the MG Midget or a 1967 Shelby Cobra, with cheap but shiny plastic parts. Posed, patched, and polished until the actual character has all but disappeared, that’s how Hackney Diamonds sounds.

That didn’t read to me all that favorably.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri October 20, 2023 11:15 am
by oasisfan35
wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:From pitchfork’s review of Hackney Diamonds:
This is the first Stones album Watt has produced—not bad, since it’s only the fifth they’ve released since his birth. Still, he’s been here before. Apart from albums by Post Malone, Miley Cyrus, and Justin Bieber, Watt has helmed sessions by Ozzy Osbourne, Iggy Pop, and Elton John (a frequent guest on Hackney Diamonds). In this realm, Watt is the antithesis of Rick Rubin. Rather than lean into the age and experience of his elders, he drags them toward the present, goading them to sound like their younger selves within ill-fitting contemporary settings. For the Stones, Watt favors the molds of circa-millennium alternative rock, from Collective Soul to Franz Ferdinand, then buffs the results until they gleam like sickly wax figures. Jagger, terrifyingly, has never sounded so youthful. Keith Richards has rarely sounded so normal, his solos all exercises in convention and efficiency. Imagine upgrading a classic muscle car, say the MG Midget or a 1967 Shelby Cobra, with cheap but shiny plastic parts. Posed, patched, and polished until the actual character has all but disappeared, that’s how Hackney Diamonds sounds.

That didn’t read to me all that favorably.
No, not positive at all.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri October 20, 2023 11:20 am
by 96583UP
when Watt approached Ed about using an Ed impersonator on the album to sound younger he was fine with it to spare him the studio time