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BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:I trust the mainstream media.

Burt, you trust nothing. I dont even know what you believe. I love your gimmick though. Just let it all fucking burn. Im in with you when that happens.

Of course I trust nothing. And I question everything I read. Again, you mistake my lack of faith in institutions and authority as some kind of nihilism.

So, start finds your lack of faith...disturbing?

McParadigm wrote:Good journalism is ultimately just a form of good research....and like good research, a single investigative piece is not worth all that much on its own, nor is it meant to.

But the question I would ask is:

What if Americans had distrusted the press when Murrey Marder was exposing McCarthy's witch hunt?

What if Americans had distrusted the media when David Halberstam was exposing the conditions in Vietnam?

What if Americans had distrusted the press when Seymour Hersh uncovered the My Lai massacre?

What if Americans had distrusted the media when Woodward and Bernstein were exposing Nixon?

What if the American public had distrusted the media when Bob Parry was uncovering the Iran-Contra affair?

What if Americans had distrusted the media when Don Barlett and James Steele were detailing the mishandling of nuclear waste?

Our history, as we know it, is broadly informed by journalists. Our choices and responses to events, over time, consistently bear the marks of this relationship. I see little difference between distrusting the media and distrusting research on the value of vaccinations.

The answer to all of the above questions is "Burt."

taxation is theft

BurtReynolds wrote:taxation is theft

White riot. A riot of our own.

File under: future American parallels.

Stickman wrote:White House Issues Details On ‘Person Of Interest’ In Swedish Terror Attack

Spoiler: show

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Bannon/Trump Administration has released details on what they are calling a “person of interest” in the recent, tragic terror attack in Sweden. Though details of the attack are extremely scant at this hour, the FBI and CIA are currently looking for a person that think may have vital information in helping them track down not only the perpetrators of the attack, but such details as where and when it actually happened.

“Right now, all we know is Sweden,” Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told reporters, “is where the attack took place. But we don’t know if it was in Sweden City, Swedenfield, or Sweden Town. So obviously we’re on a hunt for details on top of details, and this guy we’re looking for right now may be the lynch pin to the entire investigation.”

Priebus said the sooner that authorities can get a hold of this person of interest, the sooner some answers may be gleaned. The man is described as being of average height with a large frame. His eye color is unknown, as his large, bushy eyebrows cover them up completely. He wears a head dress consistent with the people in his line of work from country. He speaks very little English, Priebus said, but they do have some intercepted recordings between the man and someone in the United States identified as only as “The Frog.”

Mr. Priebus shared a print out of one of the conversations between the person of interest and The Frog. Below is a transcript of that conversation.

PERSON OF INTEREST: Hurny, shmurny der flurr smurhn!

THE FROG: It’s, uh, certainly good to hear from you too. Been a long time.

POI: Cana you-en getteen dee message to-a yourn preeseedent, the giant orange twat waffle-en?

THE FROG: Oh, gee, I don’t know, I don’t really hang around that guy. Even as a Muppet there are some humans too vile for us to make cameos with, you know?

POI: Itsen lifen anden deathen, froggen!

THE FROG: Oh, geez, okay, I get it. Sure. Let me just grab a pencil and I’ll take the message for you.

POI: Theren no been anan attackken inen my country.

THE FROG: The signal’s really bad, can you say it again?

POI: NO-EN ATTACKEN INEN SWEDEN!

THE FROG: Sorry, again, I just can’t hear you.

POI: NO-EN ATTACKEN. INEN. SWEDEN!

THE FROG: Gosh, I’m really sorry pal, I just can’t hear you well enough. Can you try calling back?

POI: Hurdy, bagurdy, badurk BORK BORK BORK!

End transmission

This is a developing story. If you or anyone you know has any information leading to this person of interest, the FBI and CIA want you to call their special hotline, 1-800-ICU-AHOL.

Oh man, that's beautiful.

And also made me realize that April Fool's Day is going to be insane this year. How will the already fake news organizations top themselves with even faker news?

So now he's making news happen?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/896 ... p-comments

US President Donald Trump provoked widespread consternation by seeming to imply, incorrectly, that immigrants had perpetrated a recent spate of violence in Sweden.

Now riots have broken out in a predominantly immigrant neighbourhood in the northern suburbs of Sweden's capital, Stockholm.

This Twitter thread helped clarify the vague discomfort I have with the way the media frequently report things Trump has said:

Birds in Hell wrote:This Twitter thread helped clarify the vague discomfort I have with the way the media frequently report things Trump has said:

This Twitter thread is super myopic. While his thoughts have a lot of merit, they assume one of two things:

1. The consumer of the Trump news is intelligent enough to think about politics, the news media, and any other relevant subjects with a high degree of understanding.

2. The consumer of the Trump news has enough time to research and fact-check what he's quoted as saying.

As the son of a woman who works all damn day, puts on the local 10pm news (the seedy, salacious news programming block in the US), and promptly falls asleep on the couch, I can tell you that not everyone has the time, nor the inclination, to double-check everything the president says.

Obviously US Presidents have always spun the truth to their liking, but Trump's behavior is on another level entirely. And your average US citizen should be able to take direct quotes from their President's mouth at relatively high face value. It is certainly not their inherent responsibility to dig deeper...

That guy's Tweet chain goes on to say "If Trump says X and clearly means Y, and you write 'Trump said X and that's not true', are you 'reporting facts'? I guess. Are you being honest, though?" This is such a larger issue in modern media: the point at which "news" crosses over into "editorializing." And for your "high journalistic integrity outlets" (NYTimes, CBS News, etc) to limit their deeper coverage of this president to their editorial sections would be woefully underserving that portion of the populace who ARE inclined to dig deeper.

3-4 months seems optimistic to me, but I do hope/think there will be a point of diminishing returns for the GOP staying fully chained to Trump.

Have you guys heard about his electoral college win?

McParadigm wrote:Have you guys heard about his electoral college win?

It was the biggest one in the history of the United States.

Has there been any news about the Republicans rushing to pass legislation yet? I haven't anything.

Birds in Hell wrote:This Twitter thread helped clarify the vague discomfort I have with the way the media frequently report things Trump has said:

So you're saying the Sean Spicer on SNL is not a parody? "You printed the lies so you're the one that's lying!"

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BurtReynolds wrote:Has there been any news about the Republicans rushing to pass legislation yet? I haven't anything.

Correct. The GOP is not chained to Trump. They have not been rushing his agenda through congress. It even looks like Trump will have to rely on recess appointments.

Bi_3 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Has there been any news about the Republicans rushing to pass legislation yet? I haven't anything.

Correct. The GOP is not chained to Trump. They have not been rushing his agenda through congress. It even looks like Trump will have to rely on recess appointments.

Well, health care is their big issue and obviously they have no thoughts of their own on it. Which is almost more embarrassing.

Strat wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Has there been any news about the Republicans rushing to pass legislation yet? I haven't anything.

Correct. The GOP is not chained to Trump. They have not been rushing his agenda through congress. It even looks like Trump will have to rely on recess appointments.

Well, health care is their big issue and obviously they have no thoughts of their own on it. Which is almost more embarrassing.

Honestly, I think they now realize how ignorant of the ACA many of their voters are and know they will lose the next election cycle, if not destroy the party, should they actually try to take it down.