Red Mosquito

ABNorman wrote:

I was at this show.

stupidmop wrote: I still expect a lot of "its like a wave you know" though lol.

It's gotten to the point where I took credit for faking the Rolling Stone interview and people believed me

Contemporaries I like reading interviews from are Trent Reznor, Bruce Springsteen, and Billy Corgan. Always thoughtful, analytical, and and insightful. The PJ guys are all over the place. Mike usually has a limited vocabulary, and I was actually pleasantly surprised he gave some thoughful answers. If you hear some Soundgarden interviews, Matt has alot going on in his brain and has really cool and interesting tastes, and he has this analytical bent I want to hear more of. Stone has alot of potential, but I can't think of a defining interview. Ed's forever stuck in ocean metaphors, his stuff just comes off as flaky to me, although he seems like he may be getting a little better.

theplatypus wrote:

stupidmop wrote: I still expect a lot of "its like a wave you know" though lol.

It's gotten to the point where I took credit for faking the Rolling Stone interview and people believed me

I know! I was feeling bad for thinking it was real because of the metaphors.

I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

ABNorman wrote:

I was at this show.

Were you... were you dressed as a cow?

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I'm a fan of the plant metaphors. Like in Green Disease, Lightning Bolt, Present Tense, In My Tree... What are some other's I'm missing?

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

I totally agree. Puzzled, but also deeply depressed that they've stopped caring about music and only care about distribution methods. A more articulate band could get around that, but for PJ, I just ask that they shut up about business and carry on talking about rocking out; at least it's (mostly) charming and endearing. The one or two more articulate members can throw other stuff in if they want, but that's because they don't overdo it. I think I was very worried, when Brendan O'Brien was taking over all those listening parties and interviews to begin with, that this whole line of thinking would be continued during Lighting Bolt. But I'm glad that so far, going by evidence from the band, it seems more casual than that, which is nice. I think BoB is just a doofus.

mastaflatch wrote:

good dog

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

I totally agree. Puzzled, but also deeply depressed that they've stopped caring about music and only care about distribution methods. A more articulate band could get around that, but for PJ, I just ask that they shut up about business and carry on talking about rocking out; at least it's (mostly) charming and endearing. The one or two more articulate members can throw other stuff in if they want, but that's because they don't overdo it. I think I was very worried, when Brendan O'Brien was taking over all those listening parties and interviews to begin with, that this whole line of thinking would be continued during Lighting Bolt. But I'm glad that so far, going by evidence from the band, it seems more casual than that, which is nice. I think BoB is just a doofus.

I wonder if they aren't comfortable with discussing their music especially lyrics as far as Ed is concerned. There really isn't that much information that comes from them from all of their career about it. They always seem to be finding their ways out of questions about it.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

I totally agree. Puzzled, but also deeply depressed that they've stopped caring about music and only care about distribution methods. A more articulate band could get around that, but for PJ, I just ask that they shut up about business and carry on talking about rocking out; at least it's (mostly) charming and endearing. The one or two more articulate members can throw other stuff in if they want, but that's because they don't overdo it. I think I was very worried, when Brendan O'Brien was taking over all those listening parties and interviews to begin with, that this whole line of thinking would be continued during Lighting Bolt. But I'm glad that so far, going by evidence from the band, it seems more casual than that, which is nice. I think BoB is just a doofus.

I wonder if they aren't comfortable with discussing their music especially lyrics as far as Ed is concerned. There really isn't that much information that comes from them from all of their career about it. They always seem to be finding their ways out of questions about it.[/quote]


You don't figure maybe they just prefer to, y'know, let the music speak for itself?

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

I totally agree. Puzzled, but also deeply depressed that they've stopped caring about music and only care about distribution methods. A more articulate band could get around that, but for PJ, I just ask that they shut up about business and carry on talking about rocking out; at least it's (mostly) charming and endearing. The one or two more articulate members can throw other stuff in if they want, but that's because they don't overdo it. I think I was very worried, when Brendan O'Brien was taking over all those listening parties and interviews to begin with, that this whole line of thinking would be continued during Lighting Bolt. But I'm glad that so far, going by evidence from the band, it seems more casual than that, which is nice. I think BoB is just a doofus.

I wonder if they aren't comfortable with discussing their music especially lyrics as far as Ed is concerned. There really isn't that much information that comes from them from all of their career about it. They always seem to be finding their ways out of questions about it.

I'd be very interested to find some of that in earlier examples, because I only really became very interested in following their media representation just before 2006. After watching SVT I started wondering how many of my frustrations could be traced back a long way.

guitar_davey wrote:

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

harmless wrote:I would rather take ocean metaphors than corporate business ones. They were dark days in PJ land when they were talking about "efficiency", and choosing between corporations to represent them as part of an ethical business model. I was fast going off PJ at that point, not so much with ocean references.

I think those interviews would work much better if it were done more articulately. If Trent Reznor talked about the subject matter of "efficiency" and working with corporations, he'd explain it in a more palatable and analytical way. He'd win you over with his answer, b/c he does it so intelligently. When PJ does it, you're left puzzled.

I totally agree. Puzzled, but also deeply depressed that they've stopped caring about music and only care about distribution methods. A more articulate band could get around that, but for PJ, I just ask that they shut up about business and carry on talking about rocking out; at least it's (mostly) charming and endearing. The one or two more articulate members can throw other stuff in if they want, but that's because they don't overdo it. I think I was very worried, when Brendan O'Brien was taking over all those listening parties and interviews to begin with, that this whole line of thinking would be continued during Lighting Bolt. But I'm glad that so far, going by evidence from the band, it seems more casual than that, which is nice. I think BoB is just a doofus.

I wonder if they aren't comfortable with discussing their music especially lyrics as far as Ed is concerned. There really isn't that much information that comes from them from all of their career about it. They always seem to be finding their ways out of questions about it.[/quote]


You don't figure maybe they just prefer to, y'know, let the music speak for itself?

Brendan O'Brien would disagree with that.

I think ed just gets nervous and kinda rambles, I read an old interview on 5h where he asks the interviewer when they type the interview up, could he make his answers more succinct because he knows he has a tendency to ramble lol. And I have to assume he doesn't talk with all those metaphors in everyday conversation lol. I think the metaphor thing is newer though, were there crazy metaphors on svt ?

Stone usually does pretty good. There's a pretty good one where explained thier choice to use target for backspacer. And he can be weirdly funny. But yeah, for the most part I think this band is more about the playing, rather than the talking about playing. I don't think any of them enjoy it all that much. Can't really blame them. And they could never do another interview again for all I care if theyre making good music.

Aaaand now I've put too much thought into some dudes interview proficiency. I should add that if anyone ever interviewed me, I'd make ed look like Shakespeare.

Thejambi wrote:

Love this, great pic!