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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 10:19 pm
by wease
We still have the hope that he’ll die.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri November 12, 2021 4:32 pm
by dimejinky99

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon November 15, 2021 2:04 pm
by Bi_3
This is the gift that may re-elect the grift

https://www.axios.com/steele-dossier-di ... 4fb3e.html

The media’s epic fail
Sara Fischer
Sara Fischer, author of Media Trends


A reckoning is hitting news organizations for years-old coverage of the 2017 Steele dossier, after the document's primary source was charged with lying to the FBI.

Why it matters: It's one of the most egregious journalistic errors in modern history, and the media's response to its own mistakes has so far been tepid.

Outsized coverage of the unvetted document drove a media frenzy at the start of Donald Trump's presidency that helped drive a narrative of collusion between former President Trump and Russia.

-It also helped drive an even bigger wedge between former President Trump and the press at the very beginning of his presidency.

Driving the news: In wake of the key source's arrest and further reporting on the situation, The Washington Post on Friday corrected and removed large portions of two articles.

-To The Post's credit, its media critic, Erik Wemple, has written at length about the mistakes made by The Post and other media outlets in their coverage of the dossier.

BuzzFeed News, which made waves in 2017 by publishing the entire dossier, says it has no plans to take the document down. It's still online, accompanied by a note that says “The allegations are unverified, and the report contains errors.”

-Ben Smith, who was BuzzFeed's editor-in-chief at the time and is now a media columnist at The New York Times, told Axios, “My view on the logic of publishing hasn't changed."

-BuzzFeed defended the decision in a 2018 lawsuit by arguing that because the FBI opened an investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, the dossier itself was newsworthy, whatever the merits of its contents turned out to be. It won that case.

Other outlets that gave the document outsized coverage have so far been less forthcoming.

-CNN and MSNBC did not respond to requests for comment about whether they planned to revisit or correct any of their coverage around the dossier

-Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn began reporting about the dossier prior to the 2016 election. Asked by Wemple whether he planned to correct the record, Corn said," My priority has been to deal with the much larger topic of Russia’s undisputed attack and Trump’s undisputed collaboration with Moscow’s cover-up."

-Corn did not respond to a request to speak on the record with Axios.

-The Wall Street Journal told Axios, "We’re aware of the serious questions raised by the allegations and continue to report and to follow the investigation closely."
Axios was among the outlets that did not publish the dossier or original reporting based on its contents.

What to watch: The Steele screwup will undoubtedly cause an even bigger rift in trust between Democrats and Republicans.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon November 15, 2021 2:11 pm
by JuanHamm
Hillary Campaign before the 2016 Election - If Trump loses, he's going to push a narrative that the election was stolen and undermine the election process

Hillary Campaign after 2016 election - Russia stole the election!!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon November 15, 2021 2:12 pm
by JuanHamm
Of course, the alternative was the Democrats taking a long, hard look in the mirror and that was never really an option.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon November 22, 2021 5:36 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
JuanHamm wrote:Hillary Campaign before the 2016 Election - If Trump loses, he's going to push a narrative that the election was stolen and undermine the election process

Hillary Campaign after 2016 election - Russia stole the election!!
That's an interesting take, especially since the first scenario came true 4 years later, which proves the Hillary campaign was correct all along. Meanwhile, let's ignore the fact that Trump has had many dealings with shady Russian characters and won't allow anyone to access his taxes or financial records to prove it. Nothing to see here.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 03, 2021 1:08 pm
by Bi_3
Looks like we are gonna get the Snyder cut:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/0 ... ase-523703

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 3:22 am
by McParadigm
Image

Anyone who doesn’t think there wasn’t

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 4:26 am
by wease
McParadigm wrote:Image

Anyone who doesn’t think there wasn’t
Very stupid, indeed.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 4:27 am
by Bammer
Still talking about this guy?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 4:28 am
by Bi_3
Bammer wrote:Still talking about this guy?

We’re aren’t not

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 4:29 am
by Bammer
Bi_3 wrote:
Bammer wrote:Still talking about this guy?

We’re aren’t not
Understanded

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 12:25 pm
by JuanHamm
Please just die

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 3:14 pm
by wease
JuanHamm wrote:Please just die
Fingers crossed

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 8:25 pm
by dimejinky99
Apparently he isn’t gonna run in the next campaign Cos he knows he’ll lose. But he’s gonna do all the run up to it just to milk people for their money.

Standard for him I guess.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sun December 05, 2021 8:37 pm
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:Apparently he isn’t gonna run in the next campaign Cos he knows he’ll lose. But he’s gonna do all the run up to it just to milk people for their money.

Standard for him I guess.
That’s what Michael Cohen basically said.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon December 06, 2021 12:49 am
by elliseamos
wasn't that the game plan originally?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon December 06, 2021 12:54 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Yeah but once he gets momentum that power will go to his massive ego and he'll run

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon December 06, 2021 12:56 am
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Yeah but once he gets momentum that power will go to his massive ego and he'll run
Yep.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon December 06, 2021 2:10 am
by dimejinky99
His appalling diet and whatever it is he’s snorting all the time, how exactly is it he’s still alive?