theplatypus wrote:“I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go fuck yourself.”
I love the DA-DA-DA-DA accent on the chorus' drums.
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VinylGuy wrote:Pino is the bass player for the whole album?
Only on "Copy Of A", "All Time Low" and "Various Methods Of Escape". Trent plays bass on everything else. And Eugene Goreshter does additional bass on "In Two".
First full listen since buying new earphones. Here we go.
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VinylGuy wrote:Pino is the bass player for the whole album?
Only on "Copy Of A", "All Time Low" and "Various Methods Of Escape". Trent plays bass on everything else. And Eugene Goreshter does additional bass on "In Two".
Nice. Wonder why Eric A was left out..maybe he was just a bass tour type of thing..who knows.
Is the outro of 'Various Methods of Escape' the only piece of live rock music on this album? That's a bit jarring. Only because for people who want that from NIN, it stands out as the best 2 minutes of the album.
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VinylGuy wrote:Pino is the bass player for the whole album?
Only on "Copy Of A", "All Time Low" and "Various Methods Of Escape". Trent plays bass on everything else. And Eugene Goreshter does additional bass on "In Two".
Nice. Wonder why Eric A was left out..maybe he was just a bass tour type of thing..who knows.
From what I understand, Eric didn't come into the picture until after the album was done.
I'm not sure why he didn't end up touring with NIN...but he does have epilepsy and mentioned during the NIN/JA tour how he had to avoid watching parts of NIN's show.
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VinylGuy wrote:Pino is the bass player for the whole album?
Only on "Copy Of A", "All Time Low" and "Various Methods Of Escape". Trent plays bass on everything else. And Eugene Goreshter does additional bass on "In Two".
Nice. Wonder why Eric A was left out..maybe he was just a bass tour type of thing..who knows.
From what I understand, Eric didn't come into the picture until after the album was done.
I'm not sure why he didn't end up touring with NIN...but he does have epilepsy and mentioned during the NIN/JA tour how he had to avoid watching parts of NIN's show.
Didnt know that. He is a great bass player, but seems to ver a difficult men. Who knows...
Tyler Durden wrote:I'm not sure why he didn't end up touring with NIN...but he does have epilepsy and mentioned during the NIN/JA tour how he had to avoid watching parts of NIN's show.
He said it was because he had just finished a huge tour with Garbage and got overwhelmed by the idea of another huge tour with NIN. He also said something about some soundtrack work he was supposed to be doing.
This album is better than their last two. It's solid.
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theplatypus wrote:“I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go fuck yourself.”
Anyone else preorder from iTunes? I had it download automatically on Tuesday morning but then when I got home from work it prompted me for my password and downloaded it again. So now I have two copies of the album and no idea what happened. I guess I could listen to both and see if there's a quality issue but just looking at the metadata the encoding rate is the same and the file sizes are the same for each track.
Very interesting video about their approach to their live show from this tour. It reminds me of Pink Floyd´s 1980s The Wall live setting in terms of how a band or a musician think their music in a visual form.
This album gets better all the time. I think it stacks up with their old stuff.
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southp wrote:Glad to hear that because after my first two listens I wasn't too impressed.
Yeah, it does get better. The beats and rhythms crawl up on you slowly with each listen. There's a lot of subtle stuff going on in each track.
He's playing with ambience, rhythm production and samples more than ever before on a vocal album. Headphones and full concentration are essential. It's like Ghosts, as far as I know it, but with little flourishes and influences from PHM, Year Zero and The Fragile. It never gets fully angry, it holds itself back, as if Trent is clenching his teeth rather than biting. There's also a fair bit of downbeat depressing stuff with no intention to get angry. In that sense, 'Hesitation Marks' seems like the perfect title. It's a slow-burner... less 'Somewhat Damaged' than 'Almost Damaged.'
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