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Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:52 am
by dimejinky99
On top of all that, neo goes from this fucked up neurotic psychotic bag of crazy.. takes that pill and suddenly he’s fine. It’s never addressed again. He’s fine.
I can see the argument for that being intentional and part of the overbearing point. But it was poorly done. I think it was just move the story along rather than any intention
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:55 am
by BurtReynolds
I was always a bit confused by what happens in the original matrix when regular people get hijacked by agents or whatever. What happens to the people?
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- And these new bots aren't people right? Or are they? What about the people on the train? They just happened to all be bots?
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:01 am
by The Argonaut
The new version of the Matrix is saturated with bots. They're not people
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:07 am
by BurtReynolds
That's what I thought but it seemed convenient that all the people on the train were bots. Maybe all Japanese people are bots.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:09 am
by BurtReynolds
Or was it China? Can't remember.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:25 am
by BurtReynolds
It is kinda funny that the bots are added to fix the problem of the heroes in the earlier movies murdering the fuck out of thousands of innocent people with a clear conscience.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:37 am
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
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- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
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- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
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- they'll just reprogram the kids to have another mother, whether they're pod humans or programs. there aren't any real stakes inside the matrix... you guys get that, right?
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
glad to clue you in buddy
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- yeah she just has years of experience birthing and raising 3 kids, but fuck it right? She can just forget them in an instant. They can just be reprogrammed. And who cares about the few minutes of abject horror inflicted on real kids if they'll just be reprogrammed later, huh?
lol
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:39 am
by spike
burt's more invested in the welfare of matrix children than real life children. absolute ridiculous human.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:43 am
by BurtReynolds
"yeah sure I just murdered your entire family, but I'll shoot you too in a few seconds, so you won't even remember it. No stakes, bro."
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:44 am
by spike
it's the matrix, exactly!
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:44 am
by BurtReynolds
You can't just say that it's The Matrix so nothing matters!
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:46 am
by spike
hey burt, do we live in a matrix?
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:47 am
by BurtReynolds
We're talking about character motivations. If a woman with three kids is going to abandon them, then you better give a compelling reason why! You can't just say "oh she realized they were just robots". That would fuck a person up immensely!
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:49 am
by Jorge
I can't wait to watch this and disagree with some of you while agreeing with others
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:51 am
by BurtReynolds
And from the kids' point of view (assuming they're kids) wouldn't that be some necessary shit to cover? It seems like it's pretty fucking necessary to me! Yet they are comically disappeared from the movie instantly.
I assume they were bots, and that the studio was like "ok no, Wachowski, you can't have Trinity karate chop the children in half, you sociopath!" So they just cut them from the movie. That was funny.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 4:53 am
by BurtReynolds
DO I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING AROUND HERE!? I FEEL LIKE I'M LIVING IN CRAZY TOWN
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 5:13 am
by spike
red pilled bro in real iife doesn't get red pilled in fiction
checks out
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 5:33 am
by BurtReynolds
Anyway the new robots were neat.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 5:34 am
by The Argonaut
BurtReynolds wrote:Or was it China? Can't remember.
Are you insane? There are no Chinese badguys in movies anymore, Burt. Of course it was Japan
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 6:34 am
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:On top of all that, neo goes from this fucked up neurotic psychotic bag of crazy.. takes that pill and suddenly he’s fine. It’s never addressed again. He’s fine.
like the first movie?