Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 1:41 am
by Simple Torture
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Putting this on a streaming service while it’s in cinemas suggests they’re just cutting their losses. Fans are loving the film but joe public is finding it a chore. Expect there’ll be a big drop off in admissions at the box office next week sadly.
They’re not throwing in the towel with it being on HBO Max, tho. People just aren’t going to a movie theater as much because covid is still a concern. When they announced the myriad lineup of movies being released same day on HBO max, it was to get subscriptions up; they find a way to win in the end somehow.
That decision was also made in like November 2020 iirc. Given a do-over, who knows if they would've pegged it for HBO Max.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 2:02 am
by dimejinky99
Mecca wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Putting this on a streaming service while it’s in cinemas suggests they’re just cutting their losses. Fans are loving the film but joe public is finding it a chore. Expect there’ll be a big drop off in admissions at the box office next week sadly.
They’re not throwing in the towel with it being on HBO Max, tho. People just aren’t going to a movie theater as much because covid is still a concern. When they announced the myriad lineup of movies being released same day on HBO max, it was to get subscriptions up; they find a way to win in the end somehow.
As Strat said. People are signing up for a free trial just to watch it. And dump the service.
Would be looking at HBOs subscriber numbers in a month or two to get a better sense of it.
But WB probably got a one time payout from hbo. Incremental points on each home viewing wouldn’t add up to anything like the same as asses in cinema seats seeing it.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 2:20 am
by BurtReynolds
Did they mention the fact that they couldn't use thinking computers/AI? If they did I missed it.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 2:23 am
by Mecca
BurtReynolds wrote:Did they mention the fact that they couldn't use thinking computers/AI? If they did I missed it.
They saw enough Terminator movies to know better
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 2:27 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 3:13 am
by E.H. Ruddock
This is definitely more of a movie for fan bios, but there’s also just the more general fan of this type of sci fi that will see it too
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 3:21 am
by The Argonaut
I thought it was fine, but I also very much felt like I would've liked it a lot more if it was a TV show or a book or a David Lynch movie, maybe
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 8:59 pm
by Ensign9
$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:01 pm
by spike
Ensign9 wrote:$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
commence the recast Timothee petitions
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:11 pm
by Ensign9
BurtReynolds wrote:Did they mention the fact that they couldn't use thinking computers/AI? If they did I missed it.
I think it was mentioned during one of Paul's filmbook study sessions.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:12 pm
by Ensign9
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
commence the recast Timothee petitions
I say he was good. I've watched the movie three times now and it's been incrementally better each time. It sorely needs 30-40 more minutes (which apparently exists based on what I've seen of the deleted scenes and the fact Villeneuve had a 5-hour cut at one point).
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:23 pm
by Rangi Guy
I have a flight up to see my parents in a couple of days. Is this worth downloading and watching on my phone?
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:27 pm
by Malloy
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
commence the recast Timothee petitions
galaxy brain: commence the replacement of villeneuve w a cheaper director but let him stay on as an exec producer
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:30 pm
by BurtReynolds
Rangi Guy wrote:I have a flight up to see my parents in a couple of days. Is this worth downloading and watching on my phone?
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:35 pm
by Strat
Ensign9 wrote:
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
commence the recast Timothee petitions
I say he was good. I've watched the movie three times now and it's been incrementally better each time. It sorely needs 30-40 more minutes (which apparently exists based on what I've seen of the deleted scenes and the fact Villeneuve had a 5-hour cut at one point).
God no this movie didn't need 30-40 more minutes.
It needed a different 30-40 minutes. I think some of the editing choices were poor. I feel many scenes were held on far much longer than they needed to be.
I liked the movie. A lot. But it dragged in many areas.
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:42 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, the first half was so fucking solemn and boring....
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 11:02 pm
by Mecca
spike wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:$40M at the box office exceeded expectations and the Warner CEO all but confirmed a sequel is coming. I'm guessing the HBO Max numbers will come out strong and further bolster that direction.
commence the recast Timothee petitions
With Kyle Maclachlan
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 11:19 pm
by Jorge
I haven't seen it yet (going Thursday) but I'm extremely skeptical that a 2 and a half hour movie "needed another 40 minutes"
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 11:46 pm
by Mecca
Jorge wrote:I haven't seen it yet (going Thursday) but I'm extremely skeptical that a 2 and a half hour movie "needed another 40 minutes"
This movie is part one of an EPIC
Re: Movie: Dune (2021) (It’s alright; you should bother)
Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 11:47 pm
by Ensign9
The best solution would have been a limited series with a Game of Thrones-level budget.
The movie works as is but there was so much left out (politics, the dinner, more clarity on Yueh's motivation, getting to know the citizenry, etc.). The dinner would've covered multiple bases but it likely would've felt off, tonally, with the rest of the movie as currently structured.