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Mizzou appealed their bowl ban sanction back in July. The NCAA says appeal decisions should be determined in 6 to 8 weeks.

Mizzou may qualify for a bowl on Friday.

Still haven't hear a peep from the NCAA. It's been 19 weeks since the appeal was heard. 19 weeks!
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Monkey_Driven wrote:Mizzou appealed their bowl ban sanction back in July. The NCAA says appeal decisions should be determined in 6 to 8 weeks.

Mizzou may qualify for a bowl on Friday.

Still haven't hear a peep from the NCAA. It's been 19 weeks since the appeal was heard. 19 weeks!
Appeal was denied. Announced more than 4 months after it was heard. What a joke.
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https://www.dailytarheel.com/article/20 ... -editorial

The term student athlete was an invention. It's been well documented that the origins of the phrase trace directly back to Walter Byers, the first executive director of the National Collegiate Athletics Association. It was a nifty trick, promoting athletes above the rank of simple students to explain why they should be judged by a lower academic standard while simultaneously keeping them below the status of employees.

The term entered wide use in 1955 when Ray Dennison, an Army veteran and football player for Fort Lewis A&M, was killed on the opening play of a game against Trinidad Junior College. Going for a tackle, Dennison was struck in the head by an opposing player's knee, shattering the base of his skull. He died 30 hours later, leaving behind three children and his wife, Billie. When she sued for workers' compensation benefits, she was denied.

Ray Dennison was not an employee; he was a "student athlete." The court decided Fort Lewis A&M was "not in the football business." That argument may have been valid in 1955, but it is a far cry from the reality of 2020, when UNC athletics was projected to make $110 million in 2020-2021 before the pandemic.

The NCAA has used the term ever since to place "student athletes" in a no man's land between student and employee, yet detached from the realities of both. The DTH recognizes that this identification doesn't truthfully describe an athlete's role on campus. That is why moving forward, the DTH will no longer use the phrase "student athlete" and instead will opt for "college athlete," "athlete" or "student" as the context requires.

The NCAA used the phrase "student athlete" and the reasoning behind it to avoid paying athletes, to control their name, image and likeness rights and to deny them the ability to unionize. During that same time, these athletes didn't really get to be students, either. Schools have skirted around providing a proper education for these athletes. Our own university failed to educate hundreds of "student athletes" for nearly 20 years, pushing them through fake "paper classes" that required little to no work and which kept their grades just high enough to retain academic eligibility.

At The Daily Tar Heel, we value accuracy. Language is part of that accuracy, and the way we use it shapes the way we as a society think and interact with the world. We feel the phrases "college athlete," "athlete", "player" and "student" portray more accurately that these athletes are students while simultaneously being professionals.

To make it clear, we are not alone in recognizing the cognitive dissonance that is having "student athletes" in an industry that brings in billions of dollars every year. Jay Bilas, a former college player at Duke and longtime critic of the amateurism model says it plainly: college athletics are professional, the players are not. Even the great hall of fame coach Bear Bryant acknowledged in his autobiography that his players were athletes first, students second. Or just ask Kain Colter, the former Northwestern quarterback who tried to establish a union for his fellow players: being a college athlete is a job, plain and simple.

To accept the term "student athlete" is to accept the NCAA and the nation's college athletic departments' agenda that these athletes are not employees and to silence the voices of these athletes. We think we should frame coverage using our own words instead.
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or could they just accept that they are the student of a sport

playing a professional sport is a career

and you need to be educated in the sport to become a professional

people make more money as a professional sports player than they do in most other professions

sports require specialization and instruction to reach that level

society values it

the business community values it

just let them play sports only and grade them based on their sports-playing ability

give them a degree in their sport

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Ok so now schools will cover athletes’ expenses for “education related” things.

I expect to see some new and creative “research” going on at universities across the country.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/06/ncaa ... -payments/
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Bammer wrote:Ok so now schools will cover athletes’ expenses for “education related” things.

I expect to see some new and creative “research” going on at universities across the country.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/06/ncaa ... -payments/
Given Kavanaugh's concurrence, I expect to see them get sued over any restrictions, thus with the goal of obviating the need for such creativity.
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Snatch are you going buck wild over the baseball victory or what
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Happy Name, Image And Likeness Day! Go secure that bag, young players!
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said the third highest-paid college football coach.
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I hope he does.
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GTFO Dabo you disingenuous POS
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Let’s make a list of college players who would have made big bucks while in school but never really panned out in the pros. A few that come to mind:

Virtually every Heisman winner
Ken Dorsey
Harold Arceneaux
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Bammer wrote:Let’s make a list of college players who would have made big bucks while in school but never really panned out in the pros. A few that come to mind:

Virtually every Heisman winner
Ken Dorsey
Harold Arceneaux
Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow, Marcus Lattimore. Michael Sam, Rocket Ishmael, Bobby Hurley, Marcus Dupree
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Relative to his market, Kellen Moore would've been rolling in money over here.
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Reggie Bush wants his Heisman back
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Reggie Bush wants his Heisman back
As he should. He never should have had it taken away from him.
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RIP Pac-10/12
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bring back the big 8
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Electromatic wrote:
Bammer wrote:Let’s make a list of college players who would have made big bucks while in school but never really panned out in the pros. A few that come to mind:

Virtually every Heisman winner
Ken Dorsey
Harold Arceneaux
Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow, Marcus Lattimore. Michael Sam, Rocket Ishmael, Bobby Hurley, Marcus Dupree
Maurice Clarett
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