TV: Pluribus (Apple TV)

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Mecca wrote:I felt very worried for the baby goat running after the individuals leaving the Peruvian village
This was clearly its origin story. It will return in season 9 to destroy them all.
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the goat scene made me think of Robert Eggers' "never work with a goat, they're impossible" comment; either this goat was incredibly well behaved because it was a kid, or Vince Gilligan is the goat whisperer
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Ensign9 wrote:
Mecca wrote:I felt very worried for the baby goat running after the individuals leaving the Peruvian village
This was clearly its origin story. It will return in season 9 to destroy them all.
It’s actually all a prequel to Goat Simulator 2.
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Mecca wrote:I felt very worried for the baby goat running after the individuals leaving the Peruvian village
Yes! I felt so bad. Poor little thing.
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Season One of Pluribus is better than Season One of Breaking Bad.

But I haven't decided if it's better than Season One of Better Call Saul or not yet.
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epilogue wrote:Season One of Pluribus is better than Season One of Breaking Bad.

But I haven't decided if it's better than Season One of Better Call Saul or not yet.
Yes.

Not by a long shot
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Season 1 of breaking bad is very much an unpolished gem because of how short it is because of the writers strike. I think it probably was for the benefit of the show long term because season 2 is one of my favorite tv experiences watching fresh.
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its weird to compare them, they are so different so far. I get why, but still it feels weird.
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VinylGuy wrote:its weird to compare them, they are so different so far. I get why, but still it feels weird.
Pluribus is culmination of the previous 2?

BCS felt like people who mastered their craft on BB to make something that never should have worked
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VinylGuy wrote:its weird to compare them, they are so different so far. I get why, but still it feels weird.
It isn't really comparing, though. It's just stating a preference. It's ranking. Is it weird to rank Pearl Jam songs?
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I'm late to the Pluribus party, but that was a hell of a first episode.
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Farmer John wrote:I'm late to the Pluribus party, but that was a hell of a first episode.
:bammer:

The show is honestly a tad uneven. But the best episodes are GREAT. Hope you enjoy the journey.
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epilogue wrote:
Farmer John wrote:I'm late to the Pluribus party, but that was a hell of a first episode.
:bammer:

The show is honestly a tad uneven. But the best episodes are GREAT. Hope you enjoy the journey.
Is the first episode the best one? What is your favorite episode?
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Farmer John wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Farmer John wrote:I'm late to the Pluribus party, but that was a hell of a first episode.
:bammer:

The show is honestly a tad uneven. But the best episodes are GREAT. Hope you enjoy the journey.
Is the first episode the best one? What is your favorite episode?
The pilot is an all timer. But there are a few others that are just as strong. The only episode that I thought was flat bad was episode 2.
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epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:its weird to compare them, they are so different so far. I get why, but still it feels weird.
It isn't really comparing, though. It's just stating a preference. It's ranking. Is it weird to rank Pearl Jam songs?
Different crafts. Also Pluribus is not finished and those two are; those two share a common genre, Pluribus is a different one.

I could see comparing them in terms of narrative , framing, montage, score maybe. Feels like Pluribus is sharing common ground with BCS there so far.
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I finished this last night. The show is good. By far the best part about it is Rhea Seehorn. It's great to spend forty five minutes with her and it's great that this show barely ever leaves her side and it's great that this show pushes her to weird and intense places.

It seems Vince Gilligan is denying it but I cannot see any other way to read this show but as all about AI and LLMs. What am I missing? How is it about anything else?
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The Argonaut wrote:I finished this last night. The show is good. By far the best part about it is Rhea Seehorn. It's great to spend forty five minutes with her and it's great that this show barely ever leaves her side and it's great that this show pushes her to weird and intense places.

It seems Vince Gilligan is denying it but I cannot see any other way to read this show but as all about AI and LLMs. What am I missing? How is it about anything else?
To me it's about the value and meaning of happiness. It's quite the thought exercise. I exhausted myself after the second episode. It didn't go in directions I anticipated, and that's OK, but I was slightly disappointed by the rest of the season.
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The Argonaut wrote:I finished this last night. The show is good. By far the best part about it is Rhea Seehorn. It's great to spend forty five minutes with her and it's great that this show barely ever leaves her side and it's great that this show pushes her to weird and intense places.

It seems Vince Gilligan is denying it but I cannot see any other way to read this show but as all about AI and LLMs. What am I missing? How is it about anything else?
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It's about a bunch of different things Asher. I like to see it as an examination of the mechanics of loneliness.

I think what Gilligan said is that it wasn't inspired by LLMs or AI because they weren't really a widespread thing when he was breaking the story, but the interpretation works
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Don't let a creator/artist tell you what it's about or isn't about. It's about whatever the fuck you think it's about as long as the ideas are supported by the text.
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