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Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:01 pm
by The Town
Well not to get in the way of the merch collector's item bashing, but if these 7" singles are 45rpm records then it can be argued that they are higher fidelity/better quality than the 33rpm 12" vinyl LP. But of course it doesn't say on the sales site what rpm they are so it seems audiophiles aren't their target buyer.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:10 pm
by HardTI
Mine wrote:HardTI wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I still haven't received the e-mail. Is that because I downgraded from Analog to Digital this past year? IS PEARL JAM MAD AT ME?!
As of now I'm blaming that on Google. Any chance you are a gmail user? I had massive delays with email deliveries yesterday/today.
I am and got the email in time.
I did too, but my confirmation email from my order just arrived today but says it was sent 18 hours ago.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:20 pm
by bodysnatcher
guys, I bought a 3 pack of furnace air filters instead for the same price, and am much more satisfied.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:22 pm
by tk
Why would you spend that much on air filters?
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:23 pm
by malice
tk wrote:Why would you spend that much on air filters?
they were a special collector's edition
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:24 pm
by tk
No. 16x25/1000
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:25 pm
by McParadigm
I really wish this was secretly just a big box of spiders.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:26 pm
by tk
McParadigm wrote:I really wish this was secretly just a big box of spiders.
Numbered?
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:27 pm
by McParadigm
natch
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:28 pm
by bodysnatcher
Had they released this box like Modest Mouse released their latest No One's First and You're Next EP, it would have been much cooler.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:30 pm
by tk
I think it was Panda Bear that released a handful of 7s before Tomboy. No bsides. But when the LP came out the songs were different. That was cool.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:46 pm
by hopethatuchoke
southp wrote:hopethatuchoke wrote:southp wrote:
p.s. Not trying to stoke the fire here, but keep in mind that artists are only making a fraction of what they used to on album/CD sales, so if a band like PJ is going to keep going there has to be a commercialization happening somewhere along the line to make the whole thing viable.
And the price of concert tickets has raised substantially to compensate for that loss. I believe I paid $35 in 2003 to see them. It was $90 after service charges this go around. Inflation has not been that drastic. Lower tier bands probably suffer but not Pearl Jam. I'm sure they get a million bucks EASY for all of the festivals they play. They also bring that much in per sold out arena show. Even if 1/2 of that is taken out for expenses and Boom (ha), each member is bringing in $100k a night.
$90 sounds pretty good to me.
Summer 2013 - Most Expensive Tours
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawren ... t-tickets/
Tour Avg Price
One Direction $674.23
The Rolling Stones $637.50
Beyoncé $358.97
Eagles $312.25
Pink $299.90
Paul McCartney $273.73
Fleetwood Mac $270.29
Depeche Mode $263.30
Bruno Mars $250.56
Black Sabbath $227.95
Justin Timberlake $221.88
Justin Bieber $214.12
Taylor Swift & Ed Sheeran $214.03
John Mayer $208.09
Dave Matthews Band $202.53
Lil Wayne $193.51
Rush $192.04
Bon Jovi $191.68
Matchbox 20 $182.69
I think this is where PJ tries to look like the good guy for the common man by only charging $90 but it's an illusion. Generally all of the above artists you mentioned charged probably $45 or less to sit in the nosebleeds or behind the stage. Pearl Jam charges full price for those. If you average out the ticket prices for a Dave Matthews show with the various price ranges, it's about the same gross as a Pearl Jam show. You can't tell me charging $90 to sit in the last row behind the stage is keeping the fans in mind.
And to counter your list, plenty of bands in Pearl Jam's bracket charge less than $90 for their highest prices. Radiohead, Green Day and Metallica come to mind and they all generally have elaborate light/stage shows that cost significantly more than Pearl Jam just showing up and playing.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:48 pm
by VinylGuy
tk wrote:theplatypus wrote:tk wrote:VinylGuy wrote:tk wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Great post...they have been doing this since...1993? Maybe it was Sony before, now its them..anyway...
Those 7" look cool.
Did you get one?
Nope, because they are expensive and these months ahead im going to spend money in other stuff too.
But they seem cool, if they release it again sometime i might buy them.
I could see this going on sale again.
Oh there is absolutely no doubt that it will.
Between this and the D.C. Vinyl, I have to become a member again. Fuckers. I'm nervous about my amazon order.
The DC vinyl is a must have. Its a great show from a very good era, the setlist is awesome and sounds great.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 8:48 pm
by bodysnatcher
One Direction $674.23
Fuck, I'm never having a daughter.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by dimejinky99
Poontang wrote:Well not to get in the way of the merch collector's item bashing, but if these 7" singles are 45rpm records then it can be argued that they are higher fidelity/better quality than the 33rpm 12" vinyl LP. But of course it doesn't say on the sales site what rpm they are so it seems audiophiles aren't their target buyer.
45 is better quality than 33?
Smaller/tighter grooves ? Or what?
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:07 pm
by Chris_H_2
I'm kind of glad I missed out on this crap. It saved me $60 for something (1) I never intend to listen to, and (2) certainly do not need.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:10 pm
by HardTI
someone posted theirs on ebay for 1300 already. geez.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:16 pm
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:well you're right about that, but it sounds like your issue is with the idea of expensive collectibles in the first place.
That's definitely my issue.
It's a bummer to see the band cater to that crowd so aggressively.
dimejinky99 wrote:As to everyone else it shouldn't even mean anything. It's just stuff.
Exactly.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just...stuff.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:20 pm
by tk
dimejinky99 wrote:Poontang wrote:Well not to get in the way of the merch collector's item bashing, but if these 7" singles are 45rpm records then it can be argued that they are higher fidelity/better quality than the 33rpm 12" vinyl LP. But of course it doesn't say on the sales site what rpm they are so it seems audiophiles aren't their target buyer.
45 is better quality than 33?
Smaller/tighter grooves ? Or what?
I could be wrong, but I think it's cut at a slower speed, thus a better groove? I don't fucking know. God. Dammit.
Re: Lightning Bolt Sevens Boxed Set
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:21 pm
by harmless
I guess I just feel that, at the moment, we're getting a vaguely OK album every four years. But the number of merch products being released is pretty much through the roof. Is the amount of superfluous crap actually proportional to the amount of new music being released? I don't think so.