Red Mosquito

theplatypus wrote:Ed solo tracks don't count, out of the question

Simple Torture wrote:Fun fact! The following songs had byes and didn't even make it out of Round 2 (percentage of the vote they received in their match in parentheses):

Marker In The Sand (49.41%)
Animal (48.86%)
Pendulum (45.45%)
Can't Keep (44.71%)
Force of Nature (36.71%)
Johnny Guitar (32.89%)
Yellow Moon (30.68%)
My Father's Son (24.39%)

Kaius wrote:Agreed. The random seeding gives the tournament a bit of unpredictability. I would imagine the same 6-8 songs would make it every year otherwise.

B wrote:

stip wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:This has been a lot of fun so far, but I'm hoping we can make a thread after it's all over suggesting changes for next year's tournament. If I could suggest four things:

1. Eliminate all non-album songs that couldn't muster 10 votes in the first round. This would leave us with more meaningful early matches, I think, and would get rid of songs like: Sweet Lew (Demo), Gone (Demo), Don't Believe In X-Mas, Wishing Well, Thunderclap, Foldback, Harmony, etc...If you want everything to participate, do some "play-in" polls where you only pick the 4 best of these songs or something to get into the actual tournament.

2. Include live covers! Seeing how far songs like Rockin' in the Free World, Crown of Thorns, or Baba O'Riley could go is more interesting, I think, than seeing The Real Thing get shut out in the first round.

3. Have a play-in poll to let some side-project band songs in. A poll for Eddie's songs, Brad songs, Jeff solo songs, etc.

4. No random seeding: figure out a 1-2?? ranking based on the results of this tournament. I'd be willing to compile this; hey, I've got a year!

All possibilities, and 4 in particular would be great.the issue is fitting it all into a tournament structure with as few byes as possible

It should also be stated that the mods talked about 1-3. People should weigh in now if they have opinions, and make stip take notes.

bluestate wrote:I rep random seeding a thousand times over. Basing next year's tournament on the results from this year would just stack the deck in favor of the heavyweights and the Cinderellas would never even make it to the ball. Who wants a March Madness without any madness?

Birds in Hell wrote:

bluestate wrote:I rep random seeding a thousand times over. Basing next year's tournament on the results from this year would just stack the deck in favor of the heavyweights and the Cinderellas would never even make it to the ball. Who wants a March Madness without any madness?

Agreed.

I don't have much to suggest but:

- Random seeding, please.
- Keep this format, it's been fun.
- I think only album tracks, official b-sides and other notable studio recordings (eg. Sunburn) should be included. No live songs, no demos, no covers apart from those included on the above releases (eg. Crazy Mary, Last Kiss, etc.)