Red Mosquito

matt reeder wrote: Oh, and man I absolutely love "Beeswax". And pretty much everything else Nirvana created in 1988. It's so weird that they wrote all this complex post-punk stuff, and then Kurt got bored with it really fast. That band, the 1988 band, could have been killer continuing to do stuff like that and most of it didn't even make a studio album (unless you count Incesticide).

The 1988 demo with Dale is one of my favourite Nirvana recordings.

Heavy weirdness.

New Cobain album coming this summer?

http://pitchfork.com/news/59469-new-kur ... -director/

So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

Strat wrote:So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

A lot. But it isn't for everyone, and it's the kind of album you either love or you don't. It's one of my 2-3 favorite albums ever but I can see why a lot of people aren't as keen on it.

matt reeder wrote:

Strat wrote:So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

A lot. But it isn't for everyone, and it's the kind of album you either love or you don't. It's one of my 2-3 favorite albums ever but I can see why a lot of people aren't as keen on it.

His voice shreds on it and that is super powerful but you can tell he wanted to turn some people away from nirvana with how abrasive it is.

matt reeder wrote:It's one of my 2-3 favorite albums ever

Probably top five for me.

Strat wrote:So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

I'm not wild about it either. I still find it very lacking in the songwriting department. The general feeling at the time amongst me and my friends was that it was a major let down/bummer. It was very anti-climactic. A lot of people were more interested in the new Pearl Jam album, which was without a doubt a better album.

However, the "In Utero" tour was the first (and last) time a lot of people in the USA were able to see Nirvana live. My first concert ever was the Bethlehem stop. And "Unplugged" and "Live And Loud" were wildly popular when they first aired...at a time when Pearl Jam wasn't doing shit in terms of media appearances. So that era is not at all lost, despite my lukewarm feelings about the album itself.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

Strat wrote:So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

I'm not wild about it either. I still find it very lacking in the songwriting department. The general feeling at the time amongst me and my friends was that it was a major let down/bummer. It was very anti-climactic. A lot of people were more interested in the new Pearl Jam album, which was without a doubt a better album.

However, the "In Utero" tour was the first (and last) time a lot of people in the USA were able to see Nirvana live. My first concert ever was the Bethlehem stop. And "Unplugged" and "Live And Loud" were wildly popular when they first aired...at a time when Pearl Jam wasn't doing shit in terms of media appearances. So that era is not at all lost, despite my lukewarm feelings about the album itself.

It was love at first listen for me, but I tend to like a lot of abrasive shit. I'm totally on board with what they were trying to do, even if a lot of the songs were leftovers. I'd take In Utero over Nevermind any day of the week, but it's totally a matter of taste.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

Strat wrote:So, ive been listening to In Utero lately. I dont like it. I didnt wen it first came out either. What am I missing?

I'm not wild about it either. I still find it very lacking in the songwriting department. The general feeling at the time amongst me and my friends was that it was a major let down/bummer. It was very anti-climactic. A lot of people were more interested in the new Pearl Jam album, which was without a doubt a better album.

However, the "In Utero" tour was the first (and last) time a lot of people in the USA were able to see Nirvana live. My first concert ever was the Bethlehem stop. And "Unplugged" and "Live And Loud" were wildly popular when they first aired...at a time when Pearl Jam wasn't doing shit in terms of media appearances. So that era is not at all lost, despite my lukewarm feelings about the album itself.

Come and join Spenno and I on team Nevermind guys
(Or is there a team Bleach?)

The leftovers are way better than the main course.

If forced to choose it would be Nevermind but luckily we aren't forced to choose.

ridleybradout wrote: (Or is there a team Bleach?)

I'm not saying it's their best, but I fucking LOVE Bleach!

I'd say I like it... The most.

Iholdthepain wrote:

ridleybradout wrote: (Or is there a team Bleach?)

I'm not saying it's their best, but I fucking LOVE Bleach!

I'd say I like it... The most.

Swap Meet FTW.

matt reeder wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

ridleybradout wrote: (Or is there a team Bleach?)

I'm not saying it's their best, but I fucking LOVE Bleach!

I'd say I like it... The most.

Swap Meet FTW.

Can you feel my Love Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzz...

Iholdthepain wrote:

matt reeder wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

ridleybradout wrote: (Or is there a team Bleach?)

I'm not saying it's their best, but I fucking LOVE Bleach!

I'd say I like it... The most.

Swap Meet FTW.

Can you feel my Love Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzz...

I'm a negative creep
I'm a negative creep
I'm a negative creep and I'm STONNNEEEEDDDD

matt reeder wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

matt reeder wrote:

Iholdthepain wrote:

ridleybradout wrote: (Or is there a team Bleach?)

I'm not saying it's their best, but I fucking LOVE Bleach!

I'd say I like it... The most.

Swap Meet FTW.

Can you feel my Love Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzz...

I'm a negative creep
I'm a negative creep
I'm a negative creep and I'm STONNNEEEEDDDD

Even... Another... Worddat... Rhymeswithshayyymmmmmaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

matt reeder wrote:It was love at first listen for me, but I tend to like a lot of abrasive shit. I'm totally on board with what they were trying to do, even if a lot of the songs were leftovers. I'd take In Utero over Nevermind any day of the week, but it's totally a matter of taste.

It wasn't that it was too abrasive, and I really like the production. It just doesn't hit the spot for me at all. I think the quality of the songs reflect their "leftover" and "written under duress" nature. It's like they really wanted to do stuff like "Oh The Guilt" and "Curmudgeon" but they played it safe and used songs that had enough commerciality to satisfy the record company. It's a compromise that fails to satisfy because the quality of the songs just isn't there. The best song on the album is probably "Scentless Apprentice", which is based on a group jam. I think "Moist Vagina" and "Sappy" are both better than anything that made the actual album. But as far as I was concerned at the time, stuff like "Dumb" and "Tourettes" and "Rape Me" was played out shit...those songs were ancient news already...about 2 years too late. And I think a lot of people felt the same way, and were ready to move on. The general mood of the album was also a bummer and I don't think people were really in that headspace at the time.

Whatever...aneurysm is their best song anyway.

Strat wrote:Whatever...aneurysm is their best song anyway.

Agreed... and it's one of the few that are way better live...

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

matt reeder wrote:It was love at first listen for me, but I tend to like a lot of abrasive shit. I'm totally on board with what they were trying to do, even if a lot of the songs were leftovers. I'd take In Utero over Nevermind any day of the week, but it's totally a matter of taste.

It wasn't that it was too abrasive, and I really like the production. It just doesn't hit the spot for me at all. I think the quality of the songs reflect their "leftover" and "written under duress" nature. It's like they really wanted to do stuff like "Oh The Guilt" and "Curmudgeon" but they played it safe and used songs that had enough commerciality to satisfy the record company. It's a compromise that fails to satisfy because the quality of the songs just isn't there. The best song on the album is probably "Scentless Apprentice", which is based on a group jam. I think "Moist Vagina" and "Sappy" are both better than anything that made the actual album. But as far as I was concerned at the time, stuff like "Dumb" and "Tourettes" and "Rape Me" was played out shit...those songs were ancient news already...about 2 years too late. And I think a lot of people felt the same way, and were ready to move on. The general mood of the album was also a bummer and I don't think people were really in that headspace at the time.

I miss the comfort in being sad.