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Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 9:10 pm
by Rangi Guy
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 10:48 pm
by Harry Lime
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Ha. I don't know, I wasn't there. It's not really the part that concerns me. But yes, the way he was said to have lived his life. So the virtuous man. Yet, even if he was the "Son of God", I'd imagine it wasn't easy for him (before Calvary).

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:11 pm
by Man in Black
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:19 pm
by Rangi Guy
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:19 pm
by Man in Black
Harry Lime wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Ha. I don't know, I wasn't there. It's not really the part that concerns me. But yes, the way he was said to have lived his life. So the virtuous man. Yet, even if he was the "Son of God", I'd imagine it wasn't easy for him (before Calvary).
So Christianity is the faith that came to you "from the inside"? Do you think that it's merely a coincidence that you live in a pervasively Christian culture and have probably heard these stories most of your life?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:30 pm
by Man in Black
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:35 pm
by Rangi Guy
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?
Except for Buddhism - all of those that you've listed have the same origin - so I guess I'd have to say yes.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:43 pm
by red calzolaio
i love me some God and Jesus.

need to read the Bible soon.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:44 pm
by Harry Lime
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Ha. I don't know, I wasn't there. It's not really the part that concerns me. But yes, the way he was said to have lived his life. So the virtuous man. Yet, even if he was the "Son of God", I'd imagine it wasn't easy for him (before Calvary).
So Christianity is the faith that came to you "from the inside"? Do you think that it's merely a coincidence that you live in pervasively Christian culture and have probably heard these stories most of your life?
No. I was baptized Catholic. I grew up with the stories. That no doubt had an influence. But my experience in life and how I dealt with its adversities were not influenced by any religious structure. It was only later that I delved more deeply and found correlations to the Christian faith, and actually many other faiths. I'm not a student of comparitive religions, but I know theree are a lot of overlapping principles.

But even if you would have placed me before the time of Christ, I would have probably had been a student of Platonism (which heavily influences Christianity).

There are too many layers to this and I can't adequately explain it. I need to do more reading.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:45 pm
by Whitey McTeeth
God is overrated, I like his earlier testament stuff.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Sun December 22, 2013 11:55 pm
by Man in Black
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?
Except for Buddhism - all of those that you've listed have the same origin - so I guess I'd have to say yes.
So you believe the Angel Moroni delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. You believe The angel Gabriel appeared to Mohammed reciting verses of the Koran?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:00 am
by Rangi Guy
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?
Except for Buddhism - all of those that you've listed have the same origin - so I guess I'd have to say yes.
So you believe the Angel Moroni delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. You believe The angel Gabriel appeared to Mohammed reciting verses of the Koran?
Not at all.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:01 am
by Man in Black
Harry Lime wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Ha. I don't know, I wasn't there. It's not really the part that concerns me. But yes, the way he was said to have lived his life. So the virtuous man. Yet, even if he was the "Son of God", I'd imagine it wasn't easy for him (before Calvary).
So Christianity is the faith that came to you "from the inside"? Do you think that it's merely a coincidence that you live in pervasively Christian culture and have probably heard these stories most of your life?
No. I was baptized Catholic. I grew up with the stories. That no doubt had an influence. But my experience in life and how I dealt with its adversities were not influenced by any religious structure. It was only later that I delved more deeply and found correlations to the Christian faith, and actually many other faiths. I'm not a student of comparitive religions, but I know theree are a lot of overlapping principles.

But even if you would have placed me before the time of Christ, I would have probably had been a student of Platonism (which heavily influences Christianity).

There are too many layers to this and I can't adequately explain it. I need to do more reading.
Do you take the protestant view on salvation? Or the happier, user-friendly version offered by the Catholics? Or do you have your own views on it?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:01 am
by red calzolaio
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
nothing in this life has proved to me these things didn't take place.

there was a time and place and reason.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:04 am
by red calzolaio
going to take a break for now, some thick condescension forming in here.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:08 am
by Man in Black
red calzolaio wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
nothing in this life has proved to me these things didn't take place.
Other than the fact that science has taught us that such things aren't possible, I suppose.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:08 am
by Harry Lime
I gotta go to work.

to be continued.

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:15 am
by Man in Black
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?
Except for Buddhism - all of those that you've listed have the same origin - so I guess I'd have to say yes.
So you believe the Angel Moroni delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. You believe The angel Gabriel appeared to Mohammed reciting verses of the Koran?
Not at all.
So you believe some supernatural religious stories but others not so much. In your opinion, what makes certain supernatural religious stories more believable than others?

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 12:31 am
by Rangi Guy
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Man in Black wrote:
Harry Lime wrote:I dislike the word "worship". I don't worship Christ's story. It just makes sense to me.
Does it make sense to you that he was born of a virgin, brought Lazarus back from the dead, healed a blind man with mud, fed a multitude with a couple of fish,and rose from the dead 3 days after dying?

Or just the peace and humility part?
Personally - I'm cool with all of it.
What have you seen in this life that makes you believe such supernatural occurrences are possible?
Aside from surving stuff that people will try and put down to an absurd amount of random occurrences, I guess nothing, but it's been enough to strengthen my faith
Do you accept the supernatural teachings of Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc.? Or just Christianity?
Except for Buddhism - all of those that you've listed have the same origin - so I guess I'd have to say yes.
So you believe the Angel Moroni delivered the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. You believe The angel Gabriel appeared to Mohammed reciting verses of the Koran?
Not at all.
So you believe some supernatural religious stories but others not so much. In your opinion, what makes certain supernatural religious stories more believable than others?
I guess a lot of it just has to do with personal faith and the path that I've chosen to believe

Re: The God topic

Posted: Mon December 23, 2013 10:36 am
by Norah
this page is awful