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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 8:26 pm
by epilogue
Chris_H_2 wrote:epilogue wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
Is this true?
I've never heard/seen that before. It's really interesting if it is true. Yield, for all of it's flaws, is an album I can't imagine resequencing. Unlike some of their other stuff, Yield feels like it has to be the way it is.
this came up last year, and someone posted either an interview or a picture of the originally intended tracklist. i remember immediately making a spotify playlist of it, and now it's the only way i listen to the album.
Cool.
I'll check it out but it feels... wrong
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 8:30 pm
by Tj
On many days my favorite album. There is no question it is the album I've listened to the most in my life time. Is it their best? I don't know. It is their Physical Graffiti. I agree with Stip there is a unfinished quality to some songs namely Faithful and In Hiding. It is a foreshadowing album in the fact that today I see Yields dna clearly in every other album. It might be the only album that spans there entire discography in that way. Dark Matter comes close but that is a rearview view that only pauses for a brief second on the Vitalogy No Code eras and certainly doesn't expand on them. If I picked out a flaw it might be it came 1 album to early. It is almost to aware of it self and to mature for the time. Ed has embraced satirical humor, and he does here with DTE, but in a hard hitting way. It feels like a album made by a stately bunch of experienced middle aged rockers. Something more like Avocado may have landed in a better way. I could easily see Yield and Avocado trading places in the time-line.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 9:37 pm
by wease
epilogue wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:epilogue wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
Is this true?
I've never heard/seen that before. It's really interesting if it is true. Yield, for all of it's flaws, is an album I can't imagine resequencing. Unlike some of their other stuff, Yield feels like it has to be the way it is.
this came up last year, and someone posted either an interview or a picture of the originally intended tracklist. i remember immediately making a spotify playlist of it, and now it's the only way i listen to the album.
Cool.
I'll check it out but it feels... wrong
Because Pilate isn’t on there.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 9:39 pm
by Kevin Davis
Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
That tracklist feels a bit jumbly in the middle, but man, opening with “MFC” into “Push Me Pull Me” really makes it feel like an album with an entirely different mission statement.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 9:40 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:epilogue wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:epilogue wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
Is this true?
I've never heard/seen that before. It's really interesting if it is true. Yield, for all of it's flaws, is an album I can't imagine resequencing. Unlike some of their other stuff, Yield feels like it has to be the way it is.
this came up last year, and someone posted either an interview or a picture of the originally intended tracklist. i remember immediately making a spotify playlist of it, and now it's the only way i listen to the album.
Cool.
I'll check it out but it feels... wrong
Because Pilate isn’t on there.
Fair point
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 9:41 pm
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
That tracklist feels a bit jumbly in the middle, but man, opening with “MFC” into “Push Me Pull Me” really makes it feel like an album with an entirely different mission statement.
Do you think that if they'd opened the record with MFC, Ed would actually sing the "spilled like wine" lyric live?
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 9:42 pm
by epilogue
Brain of J > Low Light > Wishlist really doesn't work, in my head. I'd have to hear it.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Tue September 10, 2024 10:04 pm
by Kevin Davis
epilogue wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
That tracklist feels a bit jumbly in the middle, but man, opening with “MFC” into “Push Me Pull Me” really makes it feel like an album with an entirely different mission statement.
Do you think that if they'd opened the record with MFC, Ed would actually sing the "spilled like wine" lyric live?
judging by how often he sings the “sound insurance” line in “Brain of J” I’d guess no
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 2:59 pm
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:epilogue wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:the original sequencing of this album was supposed to be:
MFC
Push Me, Pull Me
Do the Evolution
Faithful
Brain of J.
Low Light
Wishlist
Given to Fly
In Hiding
No Way
Red Dot
All Those Yesterdays
That tracklist feels a bit jumbly in the middle, but man, opening with “MFC” into “Push Me Pull Me” really makes it feel like an album with an entirely different mission statement.
Do you think that if they'd opened the record with MFC, Ed would actually sing the "spilled like wine" lyric live?
judging by how often he sings the “sound insurance” line in “Brain of J” I’d guess no
To be fair, I have no idea what the words to Brain of J are.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:15 pm
by McParadigm
2024 trag is also right
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:39 pm
by epilogue
There was a time when I would have agreed with leaving GTF off in favor of Leatherman. But not anymore. GTF is essential, a top 5 song in PJ's catalog and probably damn near top 5 in my life. And I've always loved In Hiding, which doesn't feel "anthemic" to me at all.
But I do think Yield would be a better record if you included Leatherman and HWIC (which I like, but is trying really hard to work its way into "most overrated PJ song by RM" status).
Just make it a 15 track album.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 4:54 pm
by dimejinky99
I just looked in this thread cos I saw my pal durds had replied
Then I looked at the thread title
Wtf lads
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:14 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:Yield is an excellent album. Its major flaw is its adherence to the anthemic song trope, with Given to Fly and In Hiding being the two most boring songs on the album. Replace those with Leatherman and HWIC and you have gnarly little oddball garage album:
Brain of J
Faithful
No Way
Leatherman
Wishlist
Pilate
Do the Evolution
Red Dot
MFC
Low Light
Happy When I'm Crying
Push Me, Pull Me
All Those Yesterdays
I'd prefer more in the other direction, but I agree that Yield would have benefited from picking a lane. And I think the oddball record is the one they WANTED to make.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:17 pm
by Chris_H_2
this album already has a little punchy, to-the-point ed song (mfc), and it doesn't need another.
embrace the weirdness.
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:23 pm
by VinylGuy
Leaving GTF out of the album would have been one of those choices we all continue to poke fun here
¨haha remember when they decided to let that one out of the album?? haha idiots¨
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:27 pm
by stip
VinylGuy wrote:Leaving GTF out of the album would have been one of those choices we all continue to poke fun here
¨haha remember when they decided to let that one out of the album?? haha idiots¨
the lost puzzles and games/ given to fly/cold confession album would have been incredible
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 5:28 pm
by stip
epilogue wrote:There was a time when I would have agreed with leaving GTF off in favor of Leatherman. But not anymore. GTF is essential, a top 5 song in PJ's catalog and probably damn near top 5 in my life.
guys, joe was eventually right
Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Yield
Posted: Wed September 11, 2024 6:10 pm
by lvc
I really don't understand lusty Leatherman longing.