Red Mosquito

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

wease wrote:

doug rr wrote:how is this being disputed? its Malone's $100

His time has passed. It’s over the date he picked, therefore, he is disqualified from winning.

It's whether his pick went over....

Huh? The date passed, he’s out.

I really can’t stretch my brain into any way of understanding how anyone other than 96 won.

Watch an episode of The Price Is Right, which made famous the concept of "closest without going over."

Right. The release date has gone over/past the date he picked. Thus, he loses.

theplatypus wrote:I've never watched The Price is Right so maybe that is the problem

No, that’s not the problem.

Well I disagree

theplatypus wrote:I'll watch it and figure this out. Which episode should I start with?

Now you’re just giving in to the mob.

(A mob of one.)

Set your own rules!

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

wease wrote:

doug rr wrote:how is this being disputed? its Malone's $100

His time has passed. It’s over the date he picked, therefore, he is disqualified from winning.

It's whether his pick went over....

Huh? The date passed, he’s out.

I really can’t stretch my brain into any way of understanding how anyone other than 96 won.

Watch an episode of The Price Is Right, which made famous the concept of "closest without going over."

I don’t see why this has anything to do with whatever is done or not done on a game show?

The show uses the exact same concept, and in fact has become synonymous with it.

numbers up wins.

i have spoken.

gigaton release date: march 27, 2020

jorge said: State your guess for the release date. Only one date per RMer, and once a date's picked, it's off the table. Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100. We will keep track of the guesses in this opening post.

rick malone: nov 1 2019
numbersup: nov 3 2020

Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100.

Closest without going over

It can't exceed the value its being compared against, so it would have to be something like "ClosestWhileLessThanOrEqualTo", which doesnt exactly roll off the tongue lol.
Consider this dataset:
id blah value
1 "Some" 107.35
2 "Stuff" 354.3
3 "And" 807.7
4 "All" 1002.5
5 "That" 1500.6
... ... ...
where it is ordered by [value] ascending.
If the function was called seeking a value of 808.0, it would return record 3, but if it was called seeking a value of 806.0, it would return record 2 even though record 3's value is closer (because its greater than.)

Or

Abiding by the standards of the preliminary bidding and showcase rounds of the game show The Price is Right. Specifically, a guessing game participant tries to guess the value which is the closest to being correct without going over.
Example#1
Me: Dude, I got a game we can play; let's guess the price of people's crap on Antique Roadshow.
Joe: Alright. "Price is Right" rules!

Example#2
Me: Ok guys, try to guess how much I weigh.
Paul: 81.6 kilos! Ok, ok.. 180 pounds.
Joe: 201 pounds.
Me: "Price is Right" rules -- right?
Joe: Ya.
Me: OK, I guess 202.
Joe: You bastard!
Me: Alright, let's see... Damn! I'm 199!
Paul: Wow, dude, you're fat. But, hey.. I win!
Joe: F-that... I was closest, you were way off! Friggin' "Price is Right" rules...

doug rr wrote:gigaton release date: march 27, 2020

jorge said: State your guess for the release date. Only one date per RMer, and once a date's picked, it's off the table. Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100. We will keep track of the guesses in this opening post.

rick malone: nov 1 2019
numbersup: nov 3 2020

Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100.

yes. rick went over. his date has passed.

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

wease wrote:

doug rr wrote:how is this being disputed? its Malone's $100

His time has passed. It’s over the date he picked, therefore, he is disqualified from winning.

It's whether his pick went over....

Huh? The date passed, he’s out.

I really can’t stretch my brain into any way of understanding how anyone other than 96 won.

Watch an episode of The Price Is Right, which made famous the concept of "closest without going over."

I don’t see why this has anything to do with whatever is done or not done on a game show?

The show uses the exact same concept, and in fact has become synonymous with it.

I’m not sure how you’ve made the leap from “this sounds similar to a game on The Price is Right” to “this must unquestionably run in exactly the same way as the game on The Price is Right, which I presume everyone is intimately familiar with.”

I've learned from running the Star Wars box-office prediction threads that laying out precise rules is extremely important because, well, most RMers (1) are whiny bitches and (2) have the reading comprehension of a boiled potato, so you need something to point to later when they whine (see #1). Jorge could've been a bit more precise in his instructions, that I concede.

However, I also watch The Price Is Right every day and think about the game theory that goes into bidding a lot, and I think the best interpretation of the OP's rules is that "going over" in this case ~= "having the date pass." Think about it this way: the worst thing to do when you're on Bidder's Row is to bet $1 if you are not the last person to place their bid, because then someone else can just bid $2 (I saw a version of this happen on a recent episode, where the bids went as follows: $500; $501; $502; $503--the $501 and $502 bids were absolutely mind-numbing, because it gave other players a chance to block them). You should only bid $1 if you believe everyone else has overbid (or come close to it). The rules of Jorge's game work a bit differently, but I would hazard that the equivalent to bidding $1 is not to pick today's date (i.e. February 27th, 2017, in this game's case), but rather a date so far into the future that it would out distance every other guesser's date, just like a $1 bid will undercut everyone else's bid if you think they went over (except in this case, you think everyone else's guess is just too early). So the equivalent to bidding $1 would be guessing "January 1st, 2100" (or, as Kaius did, April 20, 2069). You really shouldn't guess that until everyone else has gone, because then someone can simply guess, "December 31st, 2099" and you are immediately out of the running. Guessing one date later than a reasonable date doesn't really have the same effect, since in theory it could still be correct--it's more like bidding $525 to another bidder's $500 because you think you might be a hair closer.

I am right, lock it up.

theplatypus wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

if we're playing by the price is right rules, kaius will most likely win.

You have it backwards.

And the April guess shouldn't have been crossed off until tomorrow

True

96583UP will likely win this thing

theplatypus wrote:

Anders wrote:If it’s released in January 2021, who will win?

96583UP

It's "closest without going over", so if it's released any time after November 3 2020 and before April 20 2069, 96583UP wins

(i think)

Anders wrote:I thought once your date had passed, you were out (the date had gone over). But I understand now that I was wrong. Thank you.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

doug rr wrote:gigaton release date: march 27, 2020

jorge said: State your guess for the release date. Only one date per RMer, and once a date's picked, it's off the table. Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100. We will keep track of the guesses in this opening post.

rick malone: nov 1 2019
numbersup: nov 3 2020

Whoever comes closest (without going over) wins $100.

yes. rick went over. his date has passed.

but you, as a lawyer can see that without going over can mean that nov 3, 2020 is going over march 27, 2020? lets just find out where they live and give the money to whoever's state has better food

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Captain Termite wrote:

wease wrote:

doug rr wrote:how is this being disputed? its Malone's $100

His time has passed. It’s over the date he picked, therefore, he is disqualified from winning.

It's whether his pick went over....

Huh? The date passed, he’s out.

I really can’t stretch my brain into any way of understanding how anyone other than 96 won.

Watch an episode of The Price Is Right, which made famous the concept of "closest without going over."

I don’t see why this has anything to do with whatever is done or not done on a game show?

The show uses the exact same concept, and in fact has become synonymous with it.

I’m not sure how you’ve made the leap from “this sounds similar to a game on The Price is Right” to “this must unquestionably run in exactly the same way as the game on The Price is Right, which I presume everyone is intimately familiar with.”

Maybe more important that the creator of the tournament explained it that way on a previous page.

This contest is cancelled

but I would hazard that the equivalent to bidding $1 is not to pick today's date (i.e. February 27th, 2017, in this game's case), but rather a date so far into the future that it would out distance every other guesser's date, just like a $1 bid will undercut everyone else's bid if you think they went over

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a date waaaaay out in the future to be equivalent to a bid waaaaay over the price? Otherwise there's no way to make the equivalent of a 1$ bid without guessing "Infinity, A.D."

theplatypus wrote:This contest is cancelled

NO!

Let's all give Jorge a hard time for not being clear about things

Captain Termite wrote:

but I would hazard that the equivalent to bidding $1 is not to pick today's date (i.e. February 27th, 2017, in this game's case), but rather a date so far into the future that it would out distance every other guesser's date, just like a $1 bid will undercut everyone else's bid if you think they went over

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a date waaaaay out in the future to be equivalent to a bid waaaaay over the price? Otherwise there's no way to make the equivalent of a 1$ bid without guessing "Infinity, A.D."

I would say no to this, because TPIR allows real, whole numbers only, so Jorge's contest should (if we are trying to approximate TPIR) only allow real dates up to and including the heat death of a universe (which is going to happen on a Thursday, so you'd probably want to guess the Friday before for it to be an actual release date).

Let me put it this way. Let's say you somehow have a way of knowing that you are the last "bidder" in Jorge's game. You think everyone's guesses are too early . But you don't want to guess too early too, so instead of coming up with a realistic guess, you guess 1/1/2100. But let's say you're the last bidder and almost all of the guesses look too early, except for some moron who's already guessed 1/1/2100. Would you try to guess the date exactly, or would you guess 12/31/2099?