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Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:32 pm
by Kevin Davis
malice wrote:tommymctom wrote:What's the cut-off point for gen y?
I was born in 1984 and I've never been sure which "gen" I am.
you're prolly a cusper - but I think of gen y as someone whose parents were baby boomers.
They call us "millennials," I think.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:34 pm
by epilogue
malice wrote:I'm 47, dct, I was 26 in 1992... Pearl Jam was/is made up of guys who have about as similar a musical experience of the world as me as I could ever hope for, really not just musical experience either - they were, in a very real way, people I knew.
when they, and Nirvana, and STP, and Soundgarden, and Dino Jr, and and and - all of them - burst onto the music scene it felt, i dunno, redeeming? like, who knew we had something worthwhile to sing about? I'd spent my life prior to that feeling there wasn't anything WORTH providing musical commentary on - I thought all those 60s and 70s bands you mention were it as far as musical product that could be influential in rock and roll, and they weren't really my music, they belonged to the boomers.
someone put on :"Not For You" for me, huh? I'm all sentimental now.
I was still much younger at the time, but I felt the same way (or as close as I imagine a 12/13/14 year old could feel to that experience). I can only imagine if I'd been in my 20s how much more rooted I would have felt to the movement (if that's not too strong a word). But, yeah, I remember feeling for the first time, especially when I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit and Not For You, that this was
my music. I still do feel that way.
I've found a lot to latch onto in my 30s. Specifically, Tom Waits. He's done for 30s Joe what Pearl Jam did for teenage Joe. The Mynabirds are another example (though, in a very VERY different capacity). But nothing will ever replace that ownership, that comradery of the 90s -- of Pearl Jam, Nirvana, STP, etc.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:40 pm
by Hatfield
tommymctom wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I just changed my vote from "like it" to "its okay".
My vote just went in the opposite direction.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:44 pm
by harmless
Hatfield wrote:tommymctom wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I just changed my vote from "like it" to "its okay".
My vote just went in the opposite direction.
Yeah, I first put "It's OK" but now "I like it."
It's a bit scary because like a douche, I'm going to build expectations and the album is not going to match them.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:56 pm
by BurtReynolds
sounds better loud.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:02 pm
by harmless
I dunno, it sounds pretty good at any volume.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:02 pm
by Jorge
It sounds best on Mute
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:03 pm
by dimejinky99
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:05 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Now I'm sure you're trolling.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:06 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Now I'm sure you're trolling.
It was an easy joke, couldn't resist. But yeah, I'm liking the song less and less. I need to stop listening for a bit, and revisit it in a few days.
Amazing. Wish this was the official video.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:08 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Now I'm sure you're trolling.
It was an easy joke, couldn't resist. But yeah, I'm liking the song less and less.
Amazing. Wish this was the official video.
Shame. I guess I'm resigned to the fact that it is what it is and won't become more, but given that context, I enjoy it enough. It's catchy enough that I keep going back to it.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:09 pm
by BurtReynolds
harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Now I'm sure you're trolling.
It was an easy joke, couldn't resist. But yeah, I'm liking the song less and less.
Amazing. Wish this was the official video.
Shame. I guess I'm resigned to the fact that it is what it is and won't become more, but given that context, I enjoy it enough. It's catchy enough that I keep going back to it.
thats an angry bird.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:13 am
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Pfffffffft.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:14 am
by epilogue
harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:It sounds best on Mute
Now I'm sure you're trolling.
It was an easy joke, couldn't resist. But yeah, I'm liking the song less and less.
Amazing. Wish this was the official video.
Shame. I guess I'm resigned to the fact that it is what it is and won't become more, but given that context, I enjoy it enough. It's catchy enough that I keep going back to it.
He's just pissed because he thinks there are better versions of this same kinda thing out there, and too many people falling over themselves for this one. I get it. I do the same quite a bit, actually. It's sort of how I feel about American Beauty.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:22 am
by daft twat
harmless wrote:Hatfield wrote:tommymctom wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I just changed my vote from "like it" to "its okay".
My vote just went in the opposite direction.
Yeah, I first put "It's OK" but now "I like it."
It's a bit scary because like a douche, I'm going to build expectations and the album is not going to match them.
is that douche behavior too? maaaaaaaan....fuck.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:25 am
by epilogue
I know most people here really disliked (or at least were disappointed in) Pearl Jam Twenty. But I watched it tonight for the first time since it was in theaters and I've gotta tell ya... I'm FUCKING amped for this new album. This band really does just mean the whole wide world to me.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:29 am
by stip
I really like pj20. It's a love letter rather than some real deep examination of band dynamics, controversies, or creative process. And while those are things I'd like to watch someday, I am also okay watching a love letter to a band I love.
Embracing that all the time probably gets annoying. But sometimes it is just nice to be a fan
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:35 am
by epilogue
stip wrote:I really like pj20. It's a love letter rather than some real deep examination of band dynamics, controversies, or creative process. And while those are things I'd like to watch someday, I am also okay watching a love letter to a band I love.
Embracing that all the time probably gets annoying. But sometimes it is just nice to be a fan
Amen. But there are a lot more warts on the thing than I remember. Nothing too terribly in depth. But I was surprised to see just about every band member cry a few times. And all of them at a loss in sticky situations. I didn't remember it that way. Mostly because they skimmed over the "big" controversies, and attributed too much "process" to "fate" or "destiny" or "inspiration."
But yes, it's great to be a fan. And to celebrate. And while I never forgot, I had put some of that behind me a bit. It was nice to be reminded.
I'm officially, for better or worse, over the moon excited for Lighting Bolt.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:39 am
by stip
I am pretty good at walking the tightrope between realistic expectations and wild hopes. Basically I am confident Ill get at least 4 to 5 songs that become part of my life, and possibly more. And I know how to let myself get swept up in the moment. I'll float along for a few weeks and enjoy myself immensely and then assess what is worth keeping.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sun July 14, 2013 12:39 am
by VinylGuy
i really like PJ20, its a love letter, it has some amazing footage, some great moments ( Cornell almost crying for Andy Wood, Eddie and Kurt, Neil Young and PJ playing together, Stone and Jeff moments prior the band) and even if its not the revelatory story some people thought it should have been, it was great.
I have the feeling this new record will reconcile the band with some of the fans who were pretty cynical about them these last couple of years.