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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 3:38 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:secession would clear up so much.
Secession would just lead to war.
only if you goddamn yankees won't leave us alone!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 3:52 am
by BurtReynolds
i'm just feeling a little homesick.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 4:00 am
by 4/5
BurtReynolds wrote:wait, which side of the wall will Snowball be on? I may need to move.
This was a good post.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 4:18 am
by 96583UP
trump's decision to employ the hells angels for security remains a great idea and will not result in something controversial occurring during the next 8 months of aggressive discourse

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 6:39 am
by Stickman

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 6:47 am
by simple schoolboy
96583UP wrote:trump's decision to employ the hells angels for security remains a great idea and will not result in something controversial occurring during the next 8 months of aggressive discourse
Well, I thought I had sworn off Trump, but if your suggestion ever came to fruition...

We need some message folks to tailor this, but something along the lines of, "A knife in the kidney of every hippie protester".

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 9:39 am
by Mine
Is this supposed to be surprising?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 11:37 am
by BurtReynolds
So I guess Trump locked up the nomination yesterday.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 3:32 pm
by b_i_revisited
cutuphalfdead wrote:How dare an activist group organize activism.
There is a thin line between modern activism and trolling for a fight.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 3:53 pm
by stip
Mine wrote:
Is this supposed to be surprising?
No doubt they were concerned about the constitutional legitimacy of seizing the property of once and future citizens during wartime via executive order, especially as many of those citizens may not have actively supported secession--preferring, no doubt, that the process of emancipation happen via a Constitutionally proscribed amendment. I'm sure the remaining voters were against it because it didn't go far enough, only freeing slaves in the rebellious south and not emancipating slaves in the border states still loyal to the union.

The liberal media and their salacious headlines...

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 3:54 pm
by nyquillyn
So there's no way Obama's gonna drop the exempt/non-exempt employment bomb before the election, right? I mean, that would kill the Dems.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 4:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Facebook status I saw today:
I hope every Trump rally from here on in gets shut down. His supporters aren't deserving of tolerance or even dialogue. They set the tone and they will deal with the consequences; no mercy, no sympathy.
Fascism is not to be debated, it is to be smashed.
Look, I think think the stuff Trump has been saying is deplorable, and the fact that he has used such rhetoric and has a legitimate shot at the presidency is greatly upsetting. But that post, ironically, sounds like the words of a true fascist.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 5:49 pm
by stip
It sounds like an authoritarian who is not a fan of promulgating hate speech, but it isn't fascism. Fascism is an actual ideology with very specific tenets. This word gets abused almost as much as socialism.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 6:15 pm
by b_i_revisited
stip wrote:It sounds like an authoritarian who is not a fan of promulgating hate speech, but it isn't fascism. Fascism is an actual ideology with very specific tenets. This word gets abused almost as much as socialism.

This is a poor defense of a person advocating violence to stop political speech they don't like. Me thinks if one of Trump's bigot brigade had said something similar, but aligned with their view, you would not be so gentle.


Edit: What exactly has Trump said that is "hate speech", other than the misinterpreted "Mexican immigrants are rapists" thing? The Muslim database?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 6:54 pm
by stip
i wasnt defending the ideology. im a political theorist by training and this is a pedantic pet peeve of mine. i loathed W Bush and argued many times that he wasnt a fascist. there are lots of words in the english language to describe things we dont like. we should use them.


also no one is hitler but hitler

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 6:56 pm
by stip
b_i_revisited wrote:
stip wrote:It sounds like an authoritarian who is not a fan of promulgating hate speech, but it isn't fascism. Fascism is an actual ideology with very specific tenets. This word gets abused almost as much as socialism.

This is a poor defense of a person advocating violence to stop political speech they don't like. Me thinks if one of Trump's bigot brigade had said something similar, but aligned with their view, you would not be so gentle.


Edit: What exactly has Trump said that is "hate speech", other than the misinterpreted "Mexican immigrants are rapists" thing? The Muslim database?
those are not sufficent?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 7:25 pm
by b_i_revisited
stip wrote:i wasnt defending the ideology. im a political theorist by training and this is a pedantic pet peeve of mine. i loathed W Bush and argued many times that he wasnt a fascist. there are lots of words in the english language to describe things we dont like. we should use them.


also no one is hitler but hitler
Fair point. Whinging withdrawn.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 7:46 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Welp, I just voted for the first time. Apparently Illinois makes it easy to vote early.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 7:54 pm
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Welp, I just voted for the first time. Apparently Illinois makes it easy to vote early.
Cruz, right?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat March 12, 2016 7:54 pm
by spike