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Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:51 am
by coptheriotact
If they put as much effort into remixing and remastering Lost Dogs 2 as they did with Lost Dogs to make it seamless and cohesive, it will be interesting to see the S/t Outtakes and how they sound, although I'm starting to think there aren't that many complete b-sides around from last 3 albums..
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:19 pm
by evenslow
Birds in Hell wrote:The S/T album was recorded in the same studio with the same producer as Riot Act and all the unmastered and rough mix tracks available reveal a similar warmth and naturalness to me. Unfortunately it seems as though it got slaughtered at the mastering stage.
Think of the difference in their overall discography if they...
a) didn't bail on tchad blake at the end of binaural (and released the original tracklist)
b) didn't fuck up the mastering on s/t.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 4:49 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Remember when these songs first leaked? There was a rumor from the leaker that they came off of a disc with 9 more songs. Did anything ever become of that?
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 4:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 5:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Remember when these songs first leaked? There was a rumor from the leaker that they came off of a disc with 9 more songs. Did anything ever become of that?
Would those be the same songs that were leaked shortly after (2x4, 10 Billion Years, etc)?
Yeah I'm not sure.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 5:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 5:17 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
When the other songs you mentioned leaked, was there a big push by the band to quash those as well? Because I remember RM getting a cease and desist from PJ regarding sharing/spreading Cold Confession and Let it Ride.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 5:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 7:06 pm
by spike
so basically, we'd have LD 2 by now but RM ruined it.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon August 22, 2016 7:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
spike wrote:so basically, we'd have LD 2 by now but RM ruined it.
what would they have done on the Fuge with the leak?
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue August 23, 2016 12:43 am
by B
E.H. Ruddock wrote:When the other songs you mentioned leaked, was there a big push by the band to quash those as well? Because I remember RM getting a cease and desist from PJ regarding sharing/spreading Cold Confession and Let it Ride.
"Cease and desist" seems so mean. We were politely asked to remove an links to the leaked materials from our board.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue August 23, 2016 12:44 am
by E.H. Ruddock
B wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:When the other songs you mentioned leaked, was there a big push by the band to quash those as well? Because I remember RM getting a cease and desist from PJ regarding sharing/spreading Cold Confession and Let it Ride.
"Cease and desist" seems so mean. We were politely asked to remove an links to the leaked materials from our board.
I was going for dramatic effect, B
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue August 23, 2016 1:48 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
tragabigzanda wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:When the other songs you mentioned leaked, was there a big push by the band to quash those as well? Because I remember RM getting a cease and desist from PJ regarding sharing/spreading Cold Confession and Let it Ride.
No idea. But whether those songs were on tape, or on a hard drive, assembling them together on a disc would take a fair amount of effort if there was no end-game in mind. It could just be that some assistant from the original sessions had been sitting on them and decided to leak them now, but my money is on those tracks being revisited by the band for one reason or another.
Those things "surface" when they are sent to record company executives for consideration and opinions. They are usually referred to as "internal promos" (ie. promotional but not for public view) and they are on CD-R. Basically it's a modern day "acetate", so it's not unusual.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon November 06, 2017 9:30 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
BUMP.
I still really like both of these. I really hope there were more songs from this era as was rumored when these leaked.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon November 06, 2017 9:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Mon November 06, 2017 9:34 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:BUMP.
I still really like both of these. I really hope there were more songs from this era as was rumored when these leaked.
I'm sure we'll get them in another ten years with brand new vocal tracks.
Let it Ride, specifically, is one that they could throw into a setlist out of nowhere and people would be like "WTF?". I'm sure a lot of the more casual "Jamily" are still unaware of these songs, so the would hear them at a show and scramble to find out about them afterwards.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue November 07, 2017 3:52 am
by PHATJ
These two are probably top 5 post Riot Act. Cold Confession for sure. Let it Ride might be just out of the top 5.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue November 07, 2017 4:21 pm
by KurtLeon
This post is my greatest acomplishment.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue November 07, 2017 4:43 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
KurtLeon wrote:This post is my greatest acomplishment.
And just think, it could have been even greater...
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado Outtakes
Posted: Tue November 07, 2017 4:46 pm
by evenslow
KurtLeon wrote:This post is my greatest acomplishment.
this is truly what made you a first ballot RM Hall of Famer.