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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:17 pm
by Val
oneway23 wrote:Someone please go outside and skywatch like the village shaman to retrieve additional clips so I can be lazy and remain indoors while benefitting from the efforts of others...appreciate it
You can do it indoors too

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:18 pm
by Strat
Ledbetterdays wrote:I just think they showed up at Watt's place and played through his gear and this is the sound it produced. I like most of it so far. I can't stand the cheesy stuff from Brendan at the end with the laser sounds and stuff. If this is just mostly an arena-ready rock album then I will absolutely take it and I like what Jeff and Stone have said about it in interviews, so it's never going to be Yield or No Code or Riot Act again. It's always different for better or worse.
The best thing is I still don't think we have heard the 3 or 4 best songs on the record.
This is not how it works/ Mostly.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:18 pm
by Val
Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:spike wrote:Band sounds heavy af on that one
Yes. Heavier than they have been in a long time, and still somehow a different heavy. Those power chords are straight Vs.
A bit too high pitched on the Running clip, no?
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
are there any more clips yet though?
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:19 pm
by EBowie
Val wrote:Pearl Jam had only one perfectly produced album -- Yield.
Riot Act too
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:19 pm
by Strat
Now who even knows what the next single will be!
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:19 pm
by Strat
EBowie wrote:Val wrote:Pearl Jam had only one perfectly produced album -- Yield.
Riot Act too
No Code
VS
Binaural (in my opinion)
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:19 pm
by Val
Ms Harmless wrote:are there any more clips yet though?
Someone said "clips", plural, I tried twice but got the same clip to play both times
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:20 pm
by unLEASHed
DrSelker wrote:Jorge wrote:Hard to tell much about the production from that very low quality clip
Or maybe that's just what it sounds like, lol
Judging a song's production based on a screen recording posted on twitter and then saying how production/sound quality is so important sounds a little funny, I gotta say. That said, we have Dark Matter as a reference and much of what the rockers/heaviers are gonna sound is probably there, as Watt makes very uniform records (sound-wise).
I'm very happy, the band sounds excited, the songs/snippets sound just as authentic as Gigaton/Avocado did and nothing sounds as bad as Avocado/BS/LB (I'd even include the lackluster sound of Riot Act, but that's another can of worms and not decided if it's production or songwriting)
Could there be any aspects of the production being made for dolby atmos that make it sound different on other forms? Serious question, I dont know anything about this but Dark Matter on Atmos sounds alot different from the normal version.
Can anybody give a light on this?
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:20 pm
by spike
Ms Harmless wrote:are there any more clips yet though?
I don’t think so. Stump full of shit as usual.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:20 pm
by Val
Strat wrote:EBowie wrote:Val wrote:Pearl Jam had only one perfectly produced album -- Yield.
Riot Act too
No Code
VS
Binaural (in my opinion)
I disagree on all counts
No Code comes *somewhat* close, but only that
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:22 pm
by Ledbetterdays
Strat wrote:Ledbetterdays wrote:I just think they showed up at Watt's place and played through his gear and this is the sound it produced. I like most of it so far. I can't stand the cheesy stuff from Brendan at the end with the laser sounds and stuff. If this is just mostly an arena-ready rock album then I will absolutely take it and I like what Jeff and Stone have said about it in interviews, so it's never going to be Yield or No Code or Riot Act again. It's always different for better or worse.
The best thing is I still don't think we have heard the 3 or 4 best songs on the record.
This is not how it works/ Mostly.
Sure he put a little fixing on it. Stone said they just showed up. No instruments and just used his equipment so what I mean is I think he has a pretty standard rock sound that they played through.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:24 pm
by Strat
Ledbetterdays wrote:Strat wrote:Ledbetterdays wrote:I just think they showed up at Watt's place and played through his gear and this is the sound it produced. I like most of it so far. I can't stand the cheesy stuff from Brendan at the end with the laser sounds and stuff. If this is just mostly an arena-ready rock album then I will absolutely take it and I like what Jeff and Stone have said about it in interviews, so it's never going to be Yield or No Code or Riot Act again. It's always different for better or worse.
The best thing is I still don't think we have heard the 3 or 4 best songs on the record.
This is not how it works/ Mostly.
Sure he put a little fixing on it. Stone said they just showed up. No instruments and just used his equipment so what I mean is I think he has a pretty standard rock sound that they played through.
1st) most likely Watt has all the same gear the PJ Guys do
2) You can literally make any snare, bass, guitar, vocal sound like absolutely anything you want it to sound like. And he makes it sound like this in produciton
3) Type of mics do matter - sure.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:26 pm
by Val
So making a live drumkit sound like a drum machine is a conscious choice then
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:26 pm
by EBowie
Riot Act is the warmest, most analog-y sounding record they've made. I love the Jack records too but a lot of the production has to do with the fact that Jack used Ludwig supraphonic (aluminum) snares. Matt prefers darker sounding snare drums (copper etc). The snare drum alone can change the whole sound.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:26 pm
by Ledbetterdays
Val wrote:Strat wrote:EBowie wrote:Val wrote:Pearl Jam had only one perfectly produced album -- Yield.
Riot Act too
No Code
VS
Binaural (in my opinion)
I disagree on all counts
No Code comes *somewhat* close, but only that
The thing is with big production value comes fewer songs they play live. I am not a big go back and listen to albums person, so I would rather just have a straight forward album that they want to play live. If you have not read the Stone interview in Spin I highly recommend it. At the end he talks about how they need to take risks and do things differently like No Code and how it was received at release vs. now. He says Watt may have not been good for them in the middle of their career but it was great for now and he would like to work with him again.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:26 pm
by spike
Whoever said Pearl Jam doesn’t care (at least to trag levels) about the production on their records is likely correct.
Still waiting on pics of trag and strat with their Grammys tho.
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:27 pm
by Coach
Sound is heavy, bring on more!
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
EBowie wrote:Riot Act is the warmest, most analog-y sounding record they've made. I love the Jack records too but a lot of the production has to do with the fact that Jack used Ludwig supraphonic (aluminum) snares. Matt prefers darker sounding snare drums (copper etc). The snare drum alone can change the whole sound.
Matt's snare drum choice has a LOT more to do with the sound of these drums than some here think
Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 6:32 pm
by EBowie
Ms Harmless wrote:EBowie wrote:Riot Act is the warmest, most analog-y sounding record they've made. I love the Jack records too but a lot of the production has to do with the fact that Jack used Ludwig supraphonic (aluminum) snares. Matt prefers darker sounding snare drums (copper etc). The snare drum alone can change the whole sound.
Matt's snare drum choice has a LOT more to do with the sound of these drums than some here think
Agreed. Which is why I don't worry about it too much. If the songs and performances are good, I'm stoked. In a perfect world, their production would be flawless. But that ship sailed long ago with them.