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Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 9:12 pm
by given2trade
Mecca wrote:This felt like a side quest
agree. lame, especially with so few episodes left.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 9:14 pm
by given2trade
Jorge wrote:I enjoyed the episode but I'm disappointed in the characterization of Jeff. Back when he harassed Jimmy at the mall he seemed menacing and unpredictable, a real threat to his new identity. In this episode they turned him into a bumbling, naive doofus that Jimmy could easily outsmart. The whole "mutually assured destruction" crinkle also feels very forced, as if law enforcement would give a hoot about some tiny mall heist in comparison to capturing wanted fugitive and meth consiglieri Saul Goodman. And yeah, "Jeff doesn't know that!"-- sure. They made him dumb as a bag of rocks in this episode in order for that to work. I dunno. It all felt flimsy. Hopefully this isn't how the Jeff storyline ends up shaking out.
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Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:08 pm
by Mecca
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:I enjoyed the episode but I'm disappointed in the characterization of Jeff. Back when he harassed Jimmy at the mall he seemed menacing and unpredictable, a real threat to his new identity. In this episode they turned him into a bumbling, naive doofus that Jimmy could easily outsmart. The whole "mutually assured destruction" crinkle also feels very forced, as if law enforcement would give a hoot about some tiny mall heist in comparison to capturing wanted fugitive and meth consiglieri Saul Goodman. And yeah, "Jeff doesn't know that!"-- sure. They made him dumb as a bag of rocks in this episode in order for that to work. I dunno. It all felt flimsy. Hopefully this isn't how the Jeff storyline ends up shaking out.
I didn't feel this way at all. Exact opposite, in fact. He seemed like a bonehead from the first frame.


Please watch again

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:28 pm
by Jorge
I already knew you weren't a very perceptive viewer but damn

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:44 pm
by Mecca
I’m choosing to believe this schtick

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Tue July 26, 2022 11:53 pm
by Jorge
Alright alright, but did you watch the episode from last night? At least we can probably agree it feels like a completely different character, and not just from the recast?

Maybe his mom will be the one who is the threat.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:09 am
by VinylGuy
i think it might be the recast, Pat Healy is a great actor but his presence is not as menacing or dark as the previous guy. I agree that the character was always written as a stupid kind of guy, hell even his mother says so.

Also im sure Carol Burnett will be more of a danger to Jimmy in some way.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:18 am
by Jorge
VinylGuy wrote:hell even his mother says so.
Yes... in the new episode

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:20 am
by VinylGuy
yes, of course

you think they rewrote the character because they got a new guy?

seems a little weird.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:23 am
by Jorge
?? No, I'm saying they changed the way the character was written in a disappointing way, not because of the recast

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:30 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:31 am
by Jorge
Trag did you watch the episode

Answer the question

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:32 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:34 am
by Jorge
Thank you

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:37 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:45 am
by daft twat
You don’t get a fucking legend like Carol Burnett for one episode near the end of the run and not use her to seriously impact the story. She will be a part of Jimmy’s demise.

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 12:51 am
by The Argonaut
I think Jimmy is leaving Omaha and Gene behind. Forget floating through life barely alive living in constant fear of being found out. Go find Kim and be truly alive, even if it can't last forever. Kim was wrong about the fundamental nature of their relationship in her break-up speech, and Jimmy is going to tell her

Re: TV: Better Call Saul

Posted: Wed July 27, 2022 2:09 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:Did anyone else listen to the Odenkirk/Gould interview from Fresh Air? Really great stuff.
I only caught the last half. I may cue the whole thing up tomorrow on the way to work