Red Mosquito

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

cutuphalfdead wrote:

harmless wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

stip wrote:in fairness, it needs to wait until we hear LB. But after that...

i used mcp's post about MYM, so...

The one where he said that it wasn't as brickwalled as S/T?

And that this stuff happens in mastering which isn't handled by bob.

stupidmop wrote:He's listed as producer and mixer for backspacer and just producer for LB does that mean anything or is it just we wont know who mixed it till it comes out?

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

harmless wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

harmless wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:The new sign campaign at the shows isn't for a song

FIRE BRENDAN

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

I remember he was asked about it in PJ radio, and said it was a industry thing. Rick Rubin´s new albums are also pretty brickwalled.

harmless wrote:I didn't know he'd done A Crow Left of the Murder. I like that album, it's the last really good Incubus album.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Doc, beach.

In late 2008, mastering engineer Bob Ludwig offered three versions of the Guns N' Roses album Chinese Democracy for approval to co-producers Axl Rose and Caram Costanzo. They selected the one with the least compression. Ludwig wrote, "I was floored when I heard they decided to go with my full dynamics version and the loudness-for-loudness-sake versions be damned."[15] Ludwig said the "fan and press backlash against the recent heavily compressed recordings finally set the context for someone to take a stand and return to putting music and dynamics above sheer level."

Thejambi wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

I remember he was asked about it in PJ radio, and said it was a industry thing. Rick Rubin´s new albums are also pretty brickwalled.

After my buddy showed me the effort that Porcupine Tree puts in to the recording and sound quality of their albums (and the result) , any other excuse is just either laziness, lack of ability or not caring.

Thejambi wrote:

harmless wrote:I didn't know he'd done A Crow Left of the Murder. I like that album, it's the last really good Incubus album.

He also did Light Grenades which I found to have a very empty sound.

bodysnatcher wrote:I found this wiki entry to be interesting..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

especially this part, bc Ludwig mastered Backspacer:

In late 2008, mastering engineer Bob Ludwig offered three versions of the Guns N' Roses album Chinese Democracy for approval to co-producers Axl Rose and Caram Costanzo. They selected the one with the least compression. Ludwig wrote, "I was floored when I heard they decided to go with my full dynamics version and the loudness-for-loudness-sake versions be damned."[15] Ludwig said the "fan and press backlash against the recent heavily compressed recordings finally set the context for someone to take a stand and return to putting music and dynamics above sheer level."

theplatypus wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

I remember he was asked about it in PJ radio, and said it was a industry thing. Rick Rubin´s new albums are also pretty brickwalled.

After my buddy showed me the effort that Porcupine Tree puts in to the recording and sound quality of their albums (and the result) , any other excuse is just either laziness, lack of ability or not caring.

Yeah, "it's an industry thing" is a terrible excuse. A major cop-out. Pearl Jam are an independent band now, effectively free agents without domestic label backing. They could bypass the "industry standard" and put out a record that lived up to their purported audiophile inclinations if they really wanted to.