Red Mosquito

cutuphalfdead wrote:

harmless wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

stip wrote:in fairness, it needs to wait until we hear LB. But after that...

i used mcp's post about MYM, so...

The one where he said that it wasn't as brickwalled as S/T?

And that this stuff happens in mastering which isn't handled by bob.

well then now i feel bad.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

I remember he was asked about it in PJ radio, and said it was a industry thing. Rick Rubin´s new albums are also pretty brickwalled.

After my buddy showed me the effort that Porcupine Tree puts in to the recording and sound quality of their albums (and the result) , any other excuse is just either laziness, lack of ability or not caring.

Yeah, "it's an industry thing" is a terrible excuse. A major cop-out. Pearl Jam are an independent band now, effectively free agents without domestic label backing. They could bypass the "industry standard" and put out a record that lived up to their purported audiophile inclinations if they really wanted to.

This.

Unfortunately Eddie Vedder doesn't even know what any of this shit means.

i didn't want you to be bottom-paged.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:I'm not necessarily impressed by O'Brien's resume post-2000. Has anyone listened to any of the other albums he's produced recently (especially since around the 2009 Backspacer era) to see if they are all overly compressed? Is it just his style to squeeze songs til they're shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O' ... _producer)

I remember he was asked about it in PJ radio, and said it was a industry thing. Rick Rubin´s new albums are also pretty brickwalled.

After my buddy showed me the effort that Porcupine Tree puts in to the recording and sound quality of their albums (and the result) , any other excuse is just either laziness, lack of ability or not caring.

Yeah, "it's an industry thing" is a terrible excuse. A major cop-out. Pearl Jam are an independent band now, effectively free agents without domestic label backing. They could bypass the "industry standard" and put out a record that lived up to their purported audiophile inclinations if they really wanted to.

This.

Unfortunately Eddie Vedder doesn't even know what any of this shit means.

I can't help seeing Brendan O'Brien as Handsome Dan from Wayne's World 2: "Mmm-hmm... uh-huh... work IS hard."

I can't help but see Brendan as Old Gregg.

that gets creepier the more i watch it.

hilarious, but creepy.

Andy Wallace wouldve been my choice

theplatypus wrote:I can't help but see Brendan as Old Gregg.

"Easy now, fuzzy little man peach. Ever drunk Baileys from a shoe?"

a few interesting vids with B.O.B.

bodysnatcher wrote:a few interesting vids with B.O.B.

I got angry during the first video where he says he wants incomplete ideas, and doesn't give a shit what your ideas are, because he'll fuck around with them anyway.

harmless wrote: I got angry during the first video where he says he wants incomplete ideas, and doesn't give a shit what your ideas are, because he'll fuck around with them anyway.

agreed. i was really taken aback by that.

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hi coach.

bodysnatcher wrote:

harmless wrote: I got angry during the first video where he says he wants incomplete ideas, and doesn't give a shit what your ideas are, because he'll fuck around with them anyway.

agreed. i was really taken aback by that. i understand that the producer has an important role, but he seems he wants his role to be a band member too

Yep, like the whole thing is a huge ego trip. The job of a music producer / sound technician, should be to make a band sound the best they can be on their own terms, to give them what they want. I can't see how it's his job to 'make a product' at all. He just has the tools to help the band make one.

Can someone link to an album with a very Backspacer sound that BO'B is responsible for? I'm listening to ACLOTM by Incubus and thinking I'd be fine with an album that sounded like that.

harmless wrote:Can someone link to an album with a very Backspacer sound that BO'B is responsible for? I'm listening to ACLOTM by Incubus and thinking I'd be fine with an album that sounded like that.

The last Springsteen records sound like BS..Magic and the other one.

VinylGuy wrote:

harmless wrote:Can someone link to an album with a very Backspacer sound that BO'B is responsible for? I'm listening to ACLOTM by Incubus and thinking I'd be fine with an album that sounded like that.

The last Springsteen records sound like BS..Magic and the other one.

Cool. I already don't really like Springsteen so I'm not sure if I could stomach that.

I think the important part of that statement was the "beat the demo" part. It's very hard to impossible to replicate the immediacy and rawness of a good demo. If you come in with a sketch idea you're not spending all your time trying to recreate some magic that isn't possible to recreate. I bet McP or Kevin Davis could speak to this better than I can.

bada wrote:I think the important part of that statement was the "beat the demo" part. It's very hard to impossible to replicate the immediacy and rawness of a good demo. If you come in with a sketch idea you're not spending all your time trying to recreate some magic that isn't possible to recreate. I bet McP or Kevin Davis could speak to this better than I can.

i look forward to reading their respective responses.

bada wrote:I think the important part of that statement was the "beat the demo" part. It's very hard to impossible to replicate the immediacy and rawness of a good demo. If you come in with a sketch idea you're not spending all your time trying to recreate some magic that isn't possible to recreate. I bet McP or Kevin Davis could speak to this better than I can.

Caveat: I don't know what I'm talking about. But I can't help thinking that a great producer could do this if they really wanted to. What Brendan is really asking to do is to help write various bands' songs. No?