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Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun August 10, 2014 5:23 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
verb_to_trust wrote:He's been in the league long enough at this point he should be making improvements in his game..... instead he's been fighting with Dion Waiters and getting worse each year. I just don't buy him as an elite PG. 23 is one year older than another PG was when he won the MVP by the way...
He's better. I will give you that.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun August 10, 2014 9:29 pm
by Lament
Bammer wrote:How exactly will Kyrie Irving be exposed as a fraud?

I have seen the bad defender argument a couple times.

What else? Bad passer? Bad decision maker?

Haven't seen him play all that much but dude is quick.
He's a black hole with the basketball. He dogs it through large stretches of games, especially when he appears to think he's not getting his way. He's completely disinterested when the ball isn't in his hands. He's already got a reputation for being a bad teammate who doesn't work particularly hard.

He's been treated with kid gloves since he got to Cleveland. I don't see him being able to handle going from "The Man" to the third guy on the totem pole.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sun August 10, 2014 10:04 pm
by Peeps
disagree...

once he sees how far his assists are going to go up and his open looks open up he will be fine

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon August 11, 2014 12:07 pm
by Thejambi
Irving isn't a top 5 guys but when all is said and done, I can see him as a top 10 point guard. At worse he is a starter on any team in the league. If anyone can teach him about team play being more important than individual stats, it's Lebron.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon August 11, 2014 1:01 pm
by spike
Thejambi wrote:Irving isn't a top 5 guys but when all is said and done, I can see him as a top 10 point guard. At worse he is a starter on any team in the league. If anyone can teach him about team play being more important than individual stats, it's Lebron.
yeah, the new big three talk is far fetched, but irving is better than chalmers at least.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon August 11, 2014 1:03 pm
by Joesanity
Lament wrote:
Bammer wrote:How exactly will Kyrie Irving be exposed as a fraud?

I have seen the bad defender argument a couple times.

What else? Bad passer? Bad decision maker?

Haven't seen him play all that much but dude is quick.
He's a black hole with the basketball. He dogs it through large stretches of games, especially when he appears to think he's not getting his way. He's completely disinterested when the ball isn't in his hands. He's already got a reputation for being a bad teammate who doesn't work particularly hard.

He's been treated with kid gloves since he got to Cleveland. I don't see him being able to handle going from "The Man" to the third guy on the totem pole.
He's played for two subpar coaches (one of which knows nothing about offense) on some miserable teams with all the pressure of being "the guy" for a franchise who just lost "THE GUY" thrust on him as a 19 year old kid. And he still managed to become an All-Star.

I think he'll work just fine with LeBron. This isn't Ricky Davis saying he's happy that there's someone else who will help him score.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon August 11, 2014 1:13 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Joesanity wrote:
Lament wrote:
Bammer wrote:How exactly will Kyrie Irving be exposed as a fraud?

I have seen the bad defender argument a couple times.

What else? Bad passer? Bad decision maker?

Haven't seen him play all that much but dude is quick.
He's a black hole with the basketball. He dogs it through large stretches of games, especially when he appears to think he's not getting his way. He's completely disinterested when the ball isn't in his hands. He's already got a reputation for being a bad teammate who doesn't work particularly hard.

He's been treated with kid gloves since he got to Cleveland. I don't see him being able to handle going from "The Man" to the third guy on the totem pole.
He's played for two subpar coaches (one of which knows nothing about offense) on some miserable teams with all the pressure of being "the guy" for a franchise who just lost "THE GUY" thrust on him as a 19 year old kid. And he still managed to become an All-Star.

I think he'll work just fine with LeBron. This isn't Ricky Davis saying he's happy that there's someone else who will help him score.
I think both Love and him will be alright as supporting stars.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 1:55 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 2:01 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 2:18 pm
by Monkey_Driven
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 2:40 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.
what has happened to your city, alex?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 3:03 pm
by Alex
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.
what has happened to your city, alex?
nashville's doing fine, bro

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 3:03 pm
by Monkey_Driven
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.
what has happened to your city, alex?
My city is fine. St. Louis is the one with issues.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 3:06 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.
what has happened to your city, alex?
My city is fine. St. Louis is the one with issues.
where do u dwell? pm me the address

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu August 14, 2014 4:22 pm
by Monkey_Driven
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Once again I will be ignoring the in-laws to watch some great matchups on Christmas day.
i'm going to shower them with attention and see if i can be written into their will
Come to St. Louis then. You'll have to avoid the tear gas though.
what has happened to your city, alex?
My city is fine. St. Louis is the one with issues.
where do u dwell? pm me the address
I'm like a tumbleweed.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed August 20, 2014 8:06 pm
by 4/5
Welp. $196 per ticket for the nosebleeds on Christmas. And that's not resale. I have a pair in my cart, but I can't justify that. They priced me out. Oh well. Summer of sadness continues lol.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed August 20, 2014 8:18 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:Welp. $196 per ticket for the nosebleeds on Christmas. And that's not resale. I have a pair in my cart, but I can't justify that. They priced me out. Oh well. Summer of sadness continues lol.
We all feel your pain.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed August 20, 2014 8:37 pm
by TwoAlarmFire
4/5 wrote:Welp. $196 per ticket for the nosebleeds on Christmas. And that's not resale. I have a pair in my cart, but I can't justify that. They priced me out. Oh well. Summer of sadness continues lol.

I feel your pain right now. I will be in Chicago later this year and the Bulls are playing twice during my stay. They have been my favorite team since I was a little girl and I have yet to see them in person. If I could get to a game, I would be able to cross off #1 and #2 from my bucket list during the trip. :haha: On one hand, I do not want to pay an insane amount for tickets, but on the other hand I do not want to be up in the nosebleeds for my first NBA game. I would like to be able to see the players somewhat.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed August 20, 2014 8:45 pm
by Monkey_Driven
TwoAlarmFire wrote:
4/5 wrote:Welp. $196 per ticket for the nosebleeds on Christmas. And that's not resale. I have a pair in my cart, but I can't justify that. They priced me out. Oh well. Summer of sadness continues lol.

I feel your pain right now. I will be in Chicago later this year and the Bulls are playing twice during my stay. They have been my favorite team since I was a little girl and I have yet to see them in person. If I could get to a game, I would be able to cross off #1 and #2 from my bucket list during the trip. :haha: On one hand, I do not want to pay an insane amount for tickets, but on the other hand I do not want to be up in the nosebleeds for my first NBA game. I would like to be able to see the players somewhat.
Scalp some tickets outside of the arena.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed August 20, 2014 10:05 pm
by 4/5
TwoAlarmFire wrote:
4/5 wrote:Welp. $196 per ticket for the nosebleeds on Christmas. And that's not resale. I have a pair in my cart, but I can't justify that. They priced me out. Oh well. Summer of sadness continues lol.

I feel your pain right now. I will be in Chicago later this year and the Bulls are playing twice during my stay. They have been my favorite team since I was a little girl and I have yet to see them in person. If I could get to a game, I would be able to cross off #1 and #2 from my bucket list during the trip. :haha: On one hand, I do not want to pay an insane amount for tickets, but on the other hand I do not want to be up in the nosebleeds for my first NBA game. I would like to be able to see the players somewhat.
I hear you, but it sounds like you really gotta find a way to get in that building, even if it is in the nosebleeds. I've yet to ever see a basketball game from anywhere other than the nosebleeds, definitely still worth it.