Red Mosquito

EJ wrote:

96583UP wrote:yeah, the way he comes in with that variation on a chord, in key, and takes it nowhere special; after 50 years of playing the instrument professionally, was really earth shattering and could not be accomplished by a brazilian cover band after one listen

Yeah, it’s nothing special. Kinda wish he went off a little with it - and not in his typical pentatonic manner.

Regardless, what he does works. Still digging the song a lot. Just not listening to it for awhile.

yeah it works fine

curious to see what they do with it live

the brazilian cover gave me hope actually

96583UP wrote:

EJ wrote:

96583UP wrote:yeah, the way he comes in with that variation on a chord, in key, and takes it nowhere special; after 50 years of playing the instrument professionally, was really earth shattering and could not be accomplished by a brazilian cover band after one listen

Yeah, it’s nothing special. Kinda wish he went off a little with it - and not in his typical pentatonic manner.

Regardless, what he does works. Still digging the song a lot. Just not listening to it for awhile.

yeah it works fine

curious to see what they do with it live

the brazilian cover gave me hope actually

I’m satisfied by what the Brazilians did with it. I now have no reason to see PJ try to follow suit.

EJ wrote:

96583UP wrote:

EJ wrote:

96583UP wrote:yeah, the way he comes in with that variation on a chord, in key, and takes it nowhere special; after 50 years of playing the instrument professionally, was really earth shattering and could not be accomplished by a brazilian cover band after one listen

Yeah, it’s nothing special. Kinda wish he went off a little with it - and not in his typical pentatonic manner.

Regardless, what he does works. Still digging the song a lot. Just not listening to it for awhile.

yeah it works fine

curious to see what they do with it live

the brazilian cover gave me hope actually

I’m satisfied by what the Brazilians did with it. I now have no reason to see PJ try to follow suit.

PJ love to mimic other bands

there's no way Mike can un-see what he saw on that video of the brazilians

they will reach the singularity soon

I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

I heard DOTC at a brewery tonight and it sounded incredible.

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

dimejinky99 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

Thank you, dime

I do not like this song
I don't
I do not like this song
I won't
I don't like it in a land
I don't like it in jalan

I don't want it in a private lesson
I dont want it for some loud attention

I like

Superbloodwolfman givemeloudattention


Weirrt
weirrt weirrt weirrt weirrt

PHATJ wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

Thank you, dime

Yay stupids!

knee tunes wrote:I do not like this song
I don't
I do not like this song
I won't
I don't like it in a land
I don't like it in jalan

I don't want it in a private lesson
I dont want it for some loud attention

I like

Superbloodwolfman givemeloudattention


Weirrt
weirrt weirrt weirrt weirrt

This was nice

knee tunes wrote:I do not like this song
I don't
I do not like this song
I won't
I don't like it in a land
I don't like it in jalan

I don't want it in a private lesson
I dont want it for some loud attention

I like

Superbloodwolfman givemeloudattention


Weirrt
weirrt weirrt weirrt weirrt

A hymn for a Sunday morning.

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Thanks for this, McP.
I often felt this internal conflict when Ed would rant pre/post song and inevitably someone would shout, "just sigh the song, surfer boy."

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

I've wondered the same thing, but a big difference may be that with a few exceptions (WMA) the substance was abstract or buried enough that they could be overlooked, or reworked into whatever privileged victim narrative the person found compelling. That gets harder to do when the subject matter gets more explicitly topical.

What is 100% baffling to me is conservative people listening to Rage Against the Machine

stip wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

I've wondered the same thing, but a big difference may be that with a few exceptions (WMA) the substance was abstract or buried enough that they could be overlooked, or reworked into whatever privileged victim narrative the person found compelling. That gets harder to do when the subject matter gets more explicitly topical.

What is 100% baffling to me is conservative people listening to Rage Against the Machine

I actually got that one at work this past week, i listened to rage a few times last week in the shop, then this week the most outspoken Republican in the shop was playing them , and while i dont think the subject matter of certain music should automatically make someone unable to be a fan, the sight of this guy singing along to things that are the complete opposite of the opinions he constantly gives made me laugh.

PHATJ wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

Thank you, dime

What's funny about this is that the "users of the word woke" these days are in large part the detractors of the concept of wokeness

theplatypus wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

Thank you, dime

What's funny about this is that the "users of the word woke" these days are in large part the detractors of the concept of wokeness

all of this

theplatypus wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing?

The first two Pearl Jam albums cover homelessness, child abuse, suicide, rape, police cruelty, gun control, a desperate pursuit of asylum, and toxic masculinity...and that’s a reductionist list. Every song is about the powerless addressing the powerful. I honestly see them in retrospect as being a precursor to today’s progressive culture, in a way I frankly wish they got more credit for.

Anyways it’s a stupid post. But the conversation ended badly and people are garbage.

Woke isn’t a real thing.
It’s a word used by people who are threatened cos they know deep down they’re assholes. And often aren’t brave enough to be the assholes they are unless it’s to lecture others about it.
Users of the word woke are the new vegans.
It’s that simple.

Thank you, dime

What's funny about this is that the "users of the word woke" these days are in large part the detractors of the concept of wokeness

Exactly like in this story

Someone beat me to the punch, except my punchline was that guy probably paid $150 to go see RATM this week.

No but he’s going to see Korn in a few days.

evenslow wrote:was listening to this again this morning and just want to say cheers to Michael McCready on this one. the shit he interjects with the guitar is really head turning and takes the song to a new place.

this 100%. i think its just something im not used to with pearl jam. its almost like a prince vibe.

i still think this is the strangest single they've released since no code. strange in a good way obviously, i love it. there's just stuff i hear ive never heard from pearl jam before. and this is what they released as the lead single. this is weird, but awesome.