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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 6:26 pm
by doug rr
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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 7:04 pm
by B
My Facebook thread is full of 2016/2020 quotes from McConnell, Cruz, Graham, and who the fuck ever else.

People know that the Republicans didn't think you should replace a Justice in an election year, and they all changed their minds mightily this week.

If anyone gave a shit about their Senators having a point of view, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in. We have a racist, rapist criminal President elected by super-Jesus Christians. Don't try to convince Facebook friends to have a brain.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 7:23 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
B wrote:I feel like Republicans are going scorched Earth here. They're chances in November weren't great. If they wait and lose, they get no Justice. If they surge forward, it might make them unpopular, and they may lose in November, but at least they get a Justice.

If they fail at getting a Justice AND lose in November, we'll they'll still only be down 2 or 3 seats worse than they would have been had they done nothing.
This seems accurate to their way of thinking.
Maybe pushing forward excites the base and they win in November, then they get a Justice, a President, and the Senate.
This does not. Remember when the Kavanaugh fight was going to be a game changer that destroyed Democratic leads in 2018, but actually wasn’t at all?

The thing is, an uninspired base is the only problem they DONT have right now. Their problem is that the current numbers are the result of a fired up base and a small spattering of moderate remainers. Reacquiring some moderates (especially in the burbs) is their only hope...and moderates aren’t moved much either way by Supreme Court fights.
WHY ARE YOU SO HOPEFUL
I try to be pragmatic. There’s still a lot that could go wrong...Democrats could stumble into a religion/court fight over a nominee, for one thing. But I’m more concerned with things like voting access and pre-emptive election night victory claims than I am any potential polling change, seeing as the polling hasn’t changed since March. And on the subject of supreme court fight impacts on a high stakes, high engagement election, we have fresh, direct precedence we can point to. That precedence tells us it doesn’t change much.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 10:27 pm
by BurtReynolds
Political capital is meant to be spent.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 10:56 pm
by Strat
She’s excellent. She’s Hispanic. She’s a terrific woman from everything I know. I don’t know her. Florida. We love Florida. So she’s got a lot of things — very smart,” Trump said in a call-in interview with “Fox and Friends.”

Asked whether politics would play a role in the decision, Trump responded: “I try not to say so. I think probably automatically it is. Even if you’re not wanting to do that it becomes a little automatic.”


I fucking hate him so much.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 11:07 pm
by doug rr
this combined with trump combined with the election and combined with pete changing to norris is too overwhelming for me...

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon September 21, 2020 11:35 pm
by 96583UP
96583UP wrote:Pick One:

1) this is their chance to energize the base by appointing Ted Nugent

2) this is their chance to win back the suburbs by appointing some suburban white bitch

3) this is their chance to suppress the black vote by appointing Richard Spencer

4) this is their chance to seal the deal on a new Apprentice by appointing Ivanka Trump
Signs pointing to #2

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 12:31 am
by B
Mitch citing precedent for quickly filling a seat in an election year. :throwup:

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 12:43 am
by wease
I really do wish he’d do something so fuck-you as appointing Ivanka.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 12:47 am
by Biff Pocoroba
I would love to see a GOP Senator reply "Yeah, so?"

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 12:49 am
by 96583UP
i would like to see him nominate michael cohen

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 12:59 am
by BurtReynolds
It'll be Hillary.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 1:02 am
by wease
Biff Pocoroba wrote:I would love to see a GOP Senator reply "Yeah, so?"
Exactly. Mitch would love to rub it in the Dems’ faces.

There are no real requirements to be a SCJ, so it’s actually pretty easy to see Trump do something like that.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 1:13 am
by 96583UP
Spoiler: show
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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 2:14 pm
by B
There's a good 2 minutes of various Republican Senators arguing against nominating a Justice in an election year starting at the 10 minute mark.


Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 2:25 pm
by Hatfield
B wrote:Mitch citing precedent for quickly filling a seat in an election year. :throwup:
I almost broke my TV last night watching him cite precedent for why Democrats should calm down.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 2:36 pm
by verb_to_trust
The GOP has made the SCOTUS into a joke. Why would anyone respect it at this point? When this country burns will conservatives on SCOTUS matter?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 3:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 4:59 pm
by B
Erin Burnett is great in this clip. She plays Sen. Barrasso's rant from 2016 and when it stops she just looks at the camera and says, "Things have changed?"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... ot-vpx.cnn

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue September 22, 2020 7:24 pm
by verb_to_trust
Why are conservatives so obsessed with babies?