Red Mosquito

Tuolumne wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:Can someone explain why there is negativity for "returning to form" but not similar negativity for "returning to the good old days of No Code/Yield/Binaural"? Aren't both nostalgia, just 2 different flavors?

Both "return to form" (ie. being the big arena rock band) and wanting them to be the band you loved from 1996-2002 are fan-driven and nostalgia-oriented. Some people (not saying who) just want them to return to ... something.

Like "hey, can you just bring Jack Irons back and have Ed dye his hair kinda darker w/ blond streaks just like in Single Video Theory? Also, can he get on Dennis Rodman's shoulders like that one time and play Can't Help Falling in Love in Vegas too? Also, play Randall's Island, but only if it's raining just like that time in 1996."

I kinda just want them to do whatever gives them a musical boner and makes them feel current.

Can't speak for others, but my fondness for that era is not in the individual songs, per se; it's more about their willingness to explore new territory and play with subtlety and a nice sense of space.

But how is that different from people who used to say during the No Code days, "man I want them to rock and stage dive and play aggressive and vicious and go bananas just like in Lollapalooza. None of this Who You Are shit for me." I'm not trying to be a dick, just want to understand better.

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:I still remember how bad i felt because i love Binaural at the time and everyone else felt it was the weakest pj album to date.

YOU FUCKERS.

Yield was hated too.

In ten years, Backspacer and Lightning Bolt will be held in the same esteem as Vitalogy.

Tuolumne wrote:Can someone explain why there is negativity for "returning to form" but not similar negativity for "returning to the good old days of No Code/Yield/Binaural"? Aren't both nostalgia, just 2 different flavors?

Got Some wrote:I still remember the first time I heard Yield in a crowded food mall in a shopping centre on my lunch break from work.

Kevin Davis wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:Can someone explain why there is negativity for "returning to form" but not similar negativity for "returning to the good old days of No Code/Yield/Binaural"? Aren't both nostalgia, just 2 different flavors?

You're right that conceptually these are no different from each other. "Return to form" is just one of those buzz-phrases that has been run aground by reviewers, some of whom have probably described every one of PJ's albums from "Yield" onward, the last few especially, using this language. I think the sarcasm is more about repetition of that phrase than it is anything else.