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Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:38 am
by Mirella
Yes, and he completely ignores Future Days! A disgrace! ;)

groetjes,
Mirella :)

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:39 am
by harmless
Mirella wrote:
Yes, and he completely ignores Future Days! A disgrace! ;)

groetjes,
Mirella :)
It's there in the last para, it's just not formatted correctly!

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:41 am
by harmless
I think it says a lot that his favourite track seems to be "Lightning Bolt". He wants the "big", "anthemic" stuff that some of us would call by-the-numbers PJ. So again, some of that which is being described as boring might be pretty great.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:41 am
by Birds in Hell
That's one terribly-written review.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:41 am
by harmless
Yeah it's bad :lol:

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:45 am
by Birds in Hell
This one's alright.

This one's kind of boring.

This one sounds vaguely like an existing Pearl Jam song but not as good.

This one has a guitar solo.

etc.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 8:47 am
by harmless
He sounds bored of Pearl Jam generally, which would make for an interesting and honest review if he could actually write.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 9:06 am
by Mirella
harmless wrote:
Mirella wrote:
Yes, and he completely ignores Future Days! A disgrace! ;)

groetjes,
Mirella :)
It's there in the last para, it's just not formatted correctly!
Thanks, I just looked again and then saw it. One of the other reviews had something similar. I found that when combining them.

groetjes,
Mirella :)

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 9:54 am
by CupidStunt
This will leak today.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 9:55 am
by Release_Me
Didn't see much wrong with that review. LB is a great song and it very well could be the album highlight on first listen. There's nothing by-the-numbers PJ about it, unless their other great mid-tempo anthems are also considered by-the-numbers these days. Songs like Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon, MFS, etc. could demand repeated listens going by their descriptions. I doubt the reviewer put the album on more than once. Not bad for a first impression from someone who clearly isn't a fan of the band, just a casual listener.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 9:55 am
by harmless
All we said was that it was badly-written, which it was.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 9:56 am
by harmless
And by "by-the-numbers" I didn't mean bad. It is what it is.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:00 am
by William Bloke
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Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:00 am
by Birds in Hell
It's just drab, uninteresting writing.

Look, I've not participated in the RM anticipation of this record to any great degree, but all I can say is that I really hope someone rips this thing to FLAC before Friday.

In the event that they don't, I know I'll be tempted to go buy the CD when it's released that day and, having already purchased the digital version through 10C, that would be a pretty dumb thing to do.

So, internet, please save me from thinking less of myself this time next week.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:01 am
by Release_Me
Maybe it is badly written. I read it only after reading how much it sucked and it didn't turn out half as bad as I had thought.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:04 am
by harmless
Birds in Hell wrote:It's just drab, uninteresting writing.

Look, I've not participated in the RM anticipation of this record to any great degree, but all I can say is that I really hope someone rips this thing to FLAC before Friday.

In the event that they don't, I know I'll be tempted to go buy the CD when it's released that day and, having already purchased the digital version through 10C, that would be a pretty dumb thing to do.

So, internet, please save me from thinking less of myself this time next week.
You really risk shaming yourself here.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:12 am
by stip
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
theplatypus wrote:YES BUT ARE THERE TETAS
I haven't seen any tonight

Get on the ball here, Chloe

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:13 am
by stip
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
Cheers Lament.

It's the same old shtick time and again: rather than just an interviewer, he's a guy afflicted with a disease, who happens to be a "huge fan" who is having his life's treat, meeting PJ. The fact that he's an ex-football player and thus a sports celebrity is a footnote in this case. It's infantilisation. Mike is clumsy with his words, so I don't expect any different from him, but I'm far too used to able-bodied people talking about how great it is to be around disabled people because we are so "inspiring". That's great, Mike, but hopefully he's cool to be around just because he is? I'm talking about portrayal, because the media will always give you a version of reality, not the whole thing. And this is a formulaic one I'm very used to. It's a charitable narrative but ultimately not a particularly respectful one.
You know, I think I can understand your viewpoint. Able-bodied people are often patronising to people that disabled. I've caught myself doing it before, and it feels terrible.

It's an easy habit to fall into, instead of just treating that person the same regardless of their disability. Isn't there a saying, something like 'see the person, not the disability?'. But, there is often this feeling of needing to be extra nice, and give special treatment, to someone with a disability. I think it's mainly because that person got dealt a shitty hand, and I feel bad for them.
A former student of mine was in a wheelchair. We never talked about it, and when he wanted to get in and out of the office I'd hold the door because it was easier for him. That was about it. But there are times I wondered if he wanted it acknowledged. Like the time a friend told me he was gay and i said I didn't care
So I'm a bit late to this so would anyone still be interested in my answer to it?
go for it:)

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:14 am
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
Cheers Lament.

It's the same old shtick time and again: rather than just an interviewer, he's a guy afflicted with a disease, who happens to be a "huge fan" who is having his life's treat, meeting PJ. The fact that he's an ex-football player and thus a sports celebrity is a footnote in this case. It's infantilisation. Mike is clumsy with his words, so I don't expect any different from him, but I'm far too used to able-bodied people talking about how great it is to be around disabled people because we are so "inspiring". That's great, Mike, but hopefully he's cool to be around just because he is? I'm talking about portrayal, because the media will always give you a version of reality, not the whole thing. And this is a formulaic one I'm very used to. It's a charitable narrative but ultimately not a particularly respectful one.
You know, I think I can understand your viewpoint. Able-bodied people are often patronising to people that disabled. I've caught myself doing it before, and it feels terrible.

It's an easy habit to fall into, instead of just treating that person the same regardless of their disability. Isn't there a saying, something like 'see the person, not the disability?'. But, there is often this feeling of needing to be extra nice, and give special treatment, to someone with a disability. I think it's mainly because that person got dealt a shitty hand, and I feel bad for them.
A former student of mine was in a wheelchair. We never talked about it, and when he wanted to get in and out of the office I'd hold the door because it was easier for him. That was about it. But there are times I wondered if he wanted it acknowledged. Like the time a friend told me he was gay and i said I didn't care
So I'm a bit late to this so would anyone still be interested in my answer to it?
go for it:)
I did! Big post.

Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 10:14 am
by stip
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
evenslow wrote:Mark Richards Interviews Pearl Jam

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/18193 ... tos-video/
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I enjoyed this, by the way. I'm a little baffled that they're appearing so much more human for this press go-around than for Backspacer's. It's as if I like hearing from them again.
why can't I find the video for this?