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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:

Lament wrote:

96583UP wrote:

Strat wrote:Eddie Vedder should have just not been a stoner and realized who his real daddy was long ago. None of this would have happened.

seriously how do you not look at that dude and eventually just be like hmmm weird how we share so many facial features and how he keeps emanating this vibe like he used to have sex with my mother

This post is just fantastic.

Yep, and I expect nothing less from 96583UP.

my life cycle is complete

it's all downhill from here

but i will decay satisfied

broken iris wrote: I caught one show in 2000 and 2003 so I can't judge those years, but I never listen to boots from that era so...

It always makes sense to avoid listening to the bands' best shows.

broken iris wrote: And Riot Act is still the worst PJ album lyrically, musically, and production-wise.

Now you've gone full-out retard.

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

broken iris wrote: And Riot Act is still the worst PJ album lyrically, musically, and production-wise.

Now you've gone full-out retard.

The thing about the production, and Platy mentioned an opinion similar to yours earlier so it must be RM canon, is that it dulls down already boring songs... everything feels muted and overly smoothed out. Which is kinda the opposite of Binaural where the lower quality songs were improved by what Tchad Blake did. The work that BoB did on the last two albums is not good by any stretch, especially with the slower tracks, but it's garbage in - garbage out and the final sound of the albums is a good representation of where the band is today.

That seems like issue you have with the songs and the band's performances more than the production itself, though.

I think it's an okay record, probably their weakest effort overall at that stage, but it's basically a template of how I'd like a Pearl Jam to sound from a purely sonic perspective; warm, rich and textured.

broken iris wrote:

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

broken iris wrote: And Riot Act is still the worst PJ album lyrically, musically, and production-wise.

Now you've gone full-out retard.

The thing about the production, and Platy mentioned an opinion similar to yours earlier so it must be RM canon, is that it dulls down already boring songs... everything feels muted and overly smoothed out. Which is kinda the opposite of Binaural where the lower quality songs were improved by what Tchad Blake did. The work that BoB did on the last two albums is not good by any stretch, especially with the slower tracks, but it's garbage in - garbage out and the final sound of the albums is a good representation of where the band is today.

I don't like any of this post.

I like the part where he calls Jorge "Platy"

Heathen wrote:I like the part where he calls Jorge "Platy"

You would.

Thejambi wrote:

Heathen wrote:I like the part where he calls Jorge "Platy"

You would.

Those platys died, jambi.

McParadigm wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

Heathen wrote:I like the part where he calls Jorge "Platy"

You would.

Those platys died, jambi.

Oh........LAWLROFLCOPTERLOLHAHA!

Poor taste.

In retrospect, Pearl Jam was lucky to not have to witness the post-riot act moneygrab thread.

They'd be sorely disappointed by the lack of brainstorming going on regarding the grabbing of money.

Birds in Hell wrote:That seems like issue you have with the songs and the band's performances more than the production itself, though.

I am willing to concede that my distaste for the songs and the band's style at that time has probably shaded my view of the production on the album.

I think this 126 page discussion has not appropriately included one of the central opinions of my original post -

Please consider this-

The moneygrab phase began only as a result of the realization that the band could no longer make a difference in the world. I believe a conscious decision was made to tear down Ed's soap box as it was just wasted energy, and instead double down on the cash/fans that were ripe for the pickin'. The grandstanding politics have an inverse relationship to the moneygrab.

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:That seems like issue you have with the songs and the band's performances more than the production itself, though.

I am willing to concede that my distaste for the songs and the band's style at that time has probably shaded my view of the production on the album.

i rediscovered Riot Act recently and man, it's so much better than i thought. maybe it's because i'm a musician but it ended an era that opened so many possibilities for this band. they were almost prog at times on this record. the vocals are probably the weakest asset to this collection but still, they kind of fit the music. it just defies the preconcieved idea of what is Pearl Jam.

i have very fond memories of the time when S/T was released so i'm totally biaised in my feeling towards it but i still acknowledge that PJ had released two "difficult" albums in a row and that RA kind of tanked so they too, tried to re-capture the PJ stereotype afterwards and fought to get it back again. they went full-on "entertainment for the masses" after RA but i now find RA to be the last most artistically and intellectually entertaining album they've made.

with a few adjustments (still respecting Eddie's aging voice, better songwriting), it would have been a nice template for their subsequent releases.

oh, and the recording is absolutely fantastic. i don't think Adam Kasper is much of a producer à la BO'B - he's gonna capture what the band wants to be captured and i don't think he interferes much with the actual vision of what the album should sound like.

McParadigm wrote:They'd be sorely disappointed by the lack of brainstorming going on regarding the grabbing of money.

not if they saw THIS:

Perrrl Jams Wayz to m3ke moor monee:

- Pearl Jam LLC Mortgage Origination: Special deals on 1-2-3-4-5/ against 1 ARMs. *Rates expected to go up. First 1,000 applicants get a free wine tote bag autographed by Ricky Charles Godrich

- 10C Member Toilet Paper: Each sheet is emblazoned with a photo of a unique 10C member's face.

- Limited Edition PJ Riot Act depleted uranium shell casing, autographed by friend of the Jamily, Condoleez Rice!

- SkyMall in-flight magazine featuring the Pearl Jam collection. Get a life-size garden statue of Jeff Ament to hide your house key under.

- 10C Nothing as it Seems at home do it yourself methadone kit.

- Official PJ.com forum browser plugin. Satisfy your need to suppress critical thinking and independent thought by applying the paternalism and censorship of the official board to other web sites. Repackage opinions and frame events into versions that are more easy to digest, leaving you uninterested in questioning overt inconsistencies. Version PJ2.0* upgraded to block all references to "beth", even those contained within other words. *Not available for sale in Bethesda, MD

96583UP wrote:. Version PJ2.0* upgraded to block all references to "beth", even those contained within other words. *Not available for sale in Bethesda, MD

that was good