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Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:02 pm
by Mecca
Walter couldn’t stay forever in that cabin in the woods.
Jimmy couldn’t live Gene’s life forever (at least where this story seems to be going).
I wonder what that means for Jesse post El Camino. Jesse was one of the few people who started on the bad side of the spectrum, but slowly found his morality and code through to the end of breaking bad. I’d like to think he earned his second chance and is able to keep a low enough profile to see it through.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:11 pm
by Jorge
The Argonaut wrote:It's actually kind of bullshit of you to call me out on commenting on the show using the frame that the show clearly sets for itself. Especially since I combined three "identities" in one sentence to describe this moment in Jimmy's life. I obviously don't think of them as distinct personalities. I literally wrote Gene is acting like Jimmy and living like Saul. If that's not a description of a "messy soup" I don't know what is. Using the names is a shorthand
Well I am glad we agree
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:12 pm
by The Argonaut
Jorge wrote:The Argonaut wrote:It's actually kind of bullshit of you to call me out on commenting on the show using the frame that the show clearly sets for itself. Especially since I combined three "identities" in one sentence to describe this moment in Jimmy's life. I obviously don't think of them as distinct personalities. I literally wrote Gene is acting like Jimmy and living like Saul. If that's not a description of a "messy soup" I don't know what is. Using the names is a shorthand
Well I am glad we agree
Learn to read!
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:35 pm
by VinylGuy
Mecca wrote:Walter couldn’t stay forever in that cabin in the woods.
Jimmy couldn’t live Gene’s life forever (at least where this story seems to be going).
I wonder what that means for Jesse post El Camino. Jesse was one of the few people who started on the bad side of the spectrum, but slowly found his morality and code through to the end of breaking bad. I’d like to think he earned his second chance and is able to keep a low enough profile to see it through.
yeah Jesse came out better and he seemed to be at peace in El Camino. Jimmy doesnt seem to learn from past mistakes, thats why this last episode was so good.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:40 pm
by Mecca
VinylGuy wrote:Mecca wrote:Walter couldn’t stay forever in that cabin in the woods.
Jimmy couldn’t live Gene’s life forever (at least where this story seems to be going).
I wonder what that means for Jesse post El Camino. Jesse was one of the few people who started on the bad side of the spectrum, but slowly found his morality and code through to the end of breaking bad. I’d like to think he earned his second chance and is able to keep a low enough profile to see it through.
yeah Jesse came out better and he seemed to be at peace in El Camino. Jimmy doesnt seem to learn from past mistakes, thats why this last episode was so good.
I think he’s learned, but just doesn’t care at this point.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:51 pm
by tree_
i'm really glad i stopped watching this show
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:52 pm
by VinylGuy
haha
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 2:55 pm
by Ms Harmless
messy soup for my family
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 3:02 pm
by Monkey_Driven
VinylGuy wrote:man, i loooved that episode so much. Still thinking about it.
These last two episodes have felt like the first 3 seasons and I am here for it.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 3:15 pm
by VinylGuy
Monkey_Driven wrote:VinylGuy wrote:man, i loooved that episode so much. Still thinking about it.
These last two episodes have felt like the first 3 seasons and I am here for it.
yeah, and im loving the black and white too, the nebraska feel...Jimmy outside that bar at night, the quietness...loved it.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 3:21 pm
by Jorge
I also enjoyed the dreamlike quality of the Breaking Bad flashbacks, and how they tie into the choices Jimmy is making. It really felt like we were in his head as he relived these moments, rather than just a storytelling choice or, worse, fanservice
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 3:22 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, it wasnt fan service at all. I love how good that moment with Walter and Jesse was.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 3:25 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Jorge wrote:I also enjoyed the dreamlike quality of the Breaking Bad flashbacks, and how they tie into the choices Jimmy is making. It really felt like we were in his head as he relived these moments, rather than just a storytelling choice or, worse, fanservice

Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 4:45 pm
by Mecca
I definitely relate to Jimmy’s spiraling after that phone call; I have been leaning towards destructive tendencies since recently seeing my ex that actively worked to hurt me personally. The blank look on his face in the montage of sitting in the corner of the strip club to the going through the motions of paying the sex workers in his bed… that look is very similar to how I felt after gambling again; the guy is just looking to feel something different and can’t get the same joy out of it like a true addict who has been indulging too long.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 4:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 5:00 pm
by Mecca
tragabigzanda wrote:Mecca wrote:I definitely relate to Jimmy’s spiraling after that phone call; I have been leaning towards destructive tendencies since recently seeing my ex that actively worked to hurt me personally. The blank look on his face in the montage of sitting in the corner of the strip club to the going through the motions of paying the sex workers in his bed… that look is very similar to how I felt after gambling again; the guy is just looking to feel something different and can’t get the same joy out of it like a true addict who has been indulging too long.
dude you should post more often
And become the RM addict I once was?
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 6:44 pm
by Ensign9
Ensign9 wrote:I don’t think it’s as simple as his behavior being a return to Jimmy or Saul. I’m not seeing him get much enjoyment out of these heists. Saul is a part of this but I think something else is going on here. Understanding what happened on that phone call is the key.
After listening to Schnauz on the Insider podcast, it may be that simple after all. It's more about Gene numbing himself in response to "something very bad" (Schnauz's words) that happened during that phone call. Pretty much exactly what you spelled out from your own experience, Mecca.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 7:06 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 8:38 pm
by VinylGuy
Maybe this is just his life now, making this little crimes and keeping the cinnabon facade, away from everyone and away from Kim.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue August 02, 2022 8:49 pm
by spike
VinylGuy wrote:Maybe this is just his life now, making this little crimes and keeping the cinnabon facade, away from everyone and away from Kim.
Nah, he wants back all the money that the feds seized.