Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Mon February 17, 2020 8:38 pm
I wishE.H. Ruddock wrote:are... are you David Attenborough?Ms Harmless wrote:this song has remained solid, like dung on the surface of the Savannah
I wishE.H. Ruddock wrote:are... are you David Attenborough?Ms Harmless wrote:this song has remained solid, like dung on the surface of the Savannah
Is this more about big versus small p political? When the band started it was a Clinton government and I don't recall them being party political at that stage - perhaps they were or possibly they didn't feel strongly against Clinton. Ten and Vs are issues-based albums politically whereas in the noughties they were much more party-based in interviews and activity both in the Nader phase and the strong anti-Bush phase - song-wise they went away from issues songs with Rival and Grievance possibly the main ones and then on Riot Act only a song called Bushleager. Avocado featured more political type songs - unemployable, WWS etc which was possibly the strongest phase along with anti-war songs by Ed. Last two albums were pretty politically bland or less direct - Infallible.McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing? .
I’ve never watched it for precisely this reason.Blenheim Augustine wrote:I guess it's how I felt watching Let's Play Two and the whole baseball thing - as a non-American that was bizarre, unrelatable and hard to process.
When the band started it was a post-Reagan Bush government.Blenheim Augustine wrote:Is this more about big versus small p political? When the band started it was a Clinton government and I don't recall them being party political at that stage - perhaps they were or possibly they didn't feel strongly against Clinton. Ten and Vs are issues-based albums politically whereas in the noughties they were much more party-based in interviews and activity both in the Nader phase and the strong anti-Bush phase - song-wise they went away from issues songs with Rival and Grievance possibly the main ones and then on Riot Act only a song called Bushleager. Avocado featured more political type songs - unemployable, WWS etc which was possibly the strongest phase along with anti-war songs by Ed. Last two albums were pretty politically bland or less direct - Infallible.McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing? .
Point being that I think the band was always political but did become more overtly party political post-Clinton. I guess it's how I felt watching Let's Play Two and the whole baseball thing - as a non-American that was bizarre, unrelatable and hard to process.
thats broadly true but there is the lyric ‘never vote republican’ in even flow.Blenheim Augustine wrote:Is this more about big versus small p political? When the band started it was a Clinton government and I don't recall them being party political at that stage - perhaps they were or possibly they didn't feel strongly against Clinton. Ten and Vs are issues-based albums politically whereas in the noughties they were much more party-based in interviews and activity both in the Nader phase and the strong anti-Bush phase - song-wise they went away from issues songs with Rival and Grievance possibly the main ones and then on Riot Act only a song called Bushleager. Avocado featured more political type songs - unemployable, WWS etc which was possibly the strongest phase along with anti-war songs by Ed. Last two albums were pretty politically bland or less direct - Infallible.McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing? .
Point being that I think the band was always political but did become more overtly party political post-Clinton. I guess it's how I felt watching Let's Play Two and the whole baseball thing - as a non-American that was bizarre, unrelatable and hard to process.
I’m in love with clairvoyants
cause they’re racially pure
WMA too and Glorified Gstip wrote:thats broadly true but there is the lyric ‘never vote republican’ in even flow.Blenheim Augustine wrote:Is this more about big versus small p political? When the band started it was a Clinton government and I don't recall them being party political at that stage - perhaps they were or possibly they didn't feel strongly against Clinton. Ten and Vs are issues-based albums politically whereas in the noughties they were much more party-based in interviews and activity both in the Nader phase and the strong anti-Bush phase - song-wise they went away from issues songs with Rival and Grievance possibly the main ones and then on Riot Act only a song called Bushleager. Avocado featured more political type songs - unemployable, WWS etc which was possibly the strongest phase along with anti-war songs by Ed. Last two albums were pretty politically bland or less direct - Infallible.McParadigm wrote:I was talking with a friend in South Dakota this weekend, and this song came up. He complained about the political nature of “old, woke Pearl Jam,” and how it gives him no room to relate. It brought up, for me, a bafflement I spent most of the early 21st century experiencing. I know this individual spent most of the 90’s loving this band. My question for him was the same as for every person who disliked the Bush-era songs, or who ever described early Pearl Jam as feeling sorry for themselves. What was he hearing? .
Point being that I think the band was always political but did become more overtly party political post-Clinton. I guess it's how I felt watching Let's Play Two and the whole baseball thing - as a non-American that was bizarre, unrelatable and hard to process.