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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:43 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:no, her form of alopecia is not "part of ageing"; my partner has it and they're under 30

he doesn't know shit
What form of alopecia are you talking about?
let's start by looking at types, including which one Jada's isn't: "pattern baldness"

https://www.alopecia.org.uk/pages/categ ... f-alopecia
Wait.. what does she have?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:43 pm
by Ms Harmless
I don't know which Jada has; I do know it isn't simply "baldness"

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:44 pm
by Ms Harmless
the one my partner has is the first one

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:44 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:Ms H is really going some heavy lifting in this thread. She deserves a goddamn medal. Or at least paid vacation.
We could all use a vacation from this thread
Yeah but she's earned one.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:45 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't know which Jada has; I do know it isn't simply "baldness"
I don't know... this is what everything says she has, which only has to do with hair
What is Alopecia Areata?
Alopecia Areata is thought to be an autoimmune condition, which often starts with isolated patches of hair loss, commonly in one or more coin-sized (usually round or oval) patches on the scalp and/or across the body including the beard, eyebrows, eyelashes or body hair, including pubic hair.

In Alopecia Areata, cells from the immune system (a specific type of T cell, known as NKG2D+ T cells) gather around the hair follicles. These cells attack the follicle, stopping it from producing more hair. The exact way in which this happens is not yet understood.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:48 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:53 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:54 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
So?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:55 pm
by tree_
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
So?
Losing hair in of itself is not a disability.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:55 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
So?
Losing hair in of itself is not a disability.
Right

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:55 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
we do know that her particular type of alopecia is not due to "natural causes", and doctors are stumped as to what the causes are

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
So?
Losing hair in of itself is not a disability.
the type of alopecia Jada has *is* considered a disability; you can argue with that fact all you want

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:58 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
we do know that her particular type of alopecia is not due to "natural causes", and doctors are stumped as to what the causes are
From what I read, it could very well be because of "natural causes". It's simply hair loss, until other symptoms arise.

Listen, I'm only talking about this because you said it's on par with being in a wheelchair

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:58 pm
by epilogue
Tree, maybe you don't need to defend tooth and nail a reason to be shitty to another person. What do you really lose by just... you know, not?

You like to expunge egalitarian ideals, so what if we just don't make fun of people's appearance? Especially those they cannot control.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:58 pm
by Ms Harmless
I'm not defining disability for you

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 8:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:that's the one I'd guess, yep; an autoimmune disease, which can affect anyone of any age, usually due to secondary mental and / or physical health issues
So what symptoms does it produce other than hair loss?
other health symptoms cause it; if you want to find out the possible range of causes, the internet is right there, but terminal illness is one
Sure, sure... But all we know of Jada is that she has the symptom of losing her hair. We don't know she has anything more extreme.
we do know that her particular type of alopecia is not due to "natural causes", and doctors are stumped as to what the causes are
From what I read, it could very well be because of "natural causes". It's simply hair loss, until other symptoms arise.

Listen, I'm only talking about this because you said it's on par with being in a wheelchair
I am a disabled person in a wheelchair, and I know alopecia is also a disability; "on par with" is irrelevant

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Mon April 04, 2022 9:02 pm
by tree_
epilogue wrote:Tree, maybe you don't need to defend tooth and nail a reason to be shitty to another person. What do you really lose by just... you know, not?

You like to expunge egalitarian ideals, so what if we just don't make fun of people's appearance? Especially those they cannot control.
Who's making fun of anyone?