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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu October 03, 2013 7:17 pm
by harmless
Oh... uh, OK. Yeah. The answer to your initial question is yes. I'm going to be raped by a needle.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu October 03, 2013 8:09 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:stip wrote:I get that, but I think you might be missing my point, based on the response.
Basically, for a song like Sirens or MYM, there is something about pearl jam's take (and particularly EV's vocals) that make the song work, or make it interesting, and either enhance the best qualities in a style of song or overshadow its excess to make me like it.
I certainly don't mean to imply that tone, timbre, stylistic behaviors, and stuff like that doesn't matter. I can think of a ton of artists who could have sung Pony, and I would have liked it as much as Tom Waits singing it....but obviously Cher isn't one of them. And Rod Stewart's Downtown Train veer so far away from the elements that imbue the song with humanity that the whole thing eats nuts.
So for instance, I love a song like Heart Attack and Vine, but if you played me some similar song by a bluesy band in the same style, but with a different singer, I probably wouldn't care all that much about it. It could be the same song, even.
I agree with this, in that it's not dissimilar to how I feel about Let the Records Play. It has none of the human imperfection, swayingly inexact rhythm, or playful instrumental twist that makes that type of music work. Performance wise, it's workmanlike....metronomic. The guitars are tightly controlled. The singing is SINGING, not attitudinal at all...all of which is why it "feels" more like Shania Twain-type music than T-Rex. A series of choices, all performance-side, that prevent the song from being good.
If I am understanding you right (maybe I'm not) you seem to be saying that something like Get behind the Mule will be great if you put any competent musician in front of it because it's a great song. And maybe that's the case. But I think it might be a case of tom waits making the song great, or enhancing it, anyway.
I don't think Nick Cave could have been brought in to sing over the band track of Burning Heart for the Rocky soundtrack, if that's what you mean.
Although I'd probably have to listen to that.
My point is just that this may explain why a song in a genre you don't normally care for might be of greater interest to you, and you may even love it, once your singer/band and the subtle sensibilities they bring to the table get involved. I don't like punk as a genre at all, and I love MYM, because I think it takes whatever the core of that genre is gives it enough of a pearl jam gloss to make it both palatable and expose what is of value within it.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 3:08 am
by dkfan9
i don't really like this song.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 3:10 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 3:35 am
by malice
dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 4:54 pm
by Thejambi
Haven't listened to it in several days. I Switched cars with my wife yesterday and she has a burned disc with this on it. Instant car-boner.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 1:28 pm
by harmless
It's official: "Sirens" is better than "Halfway There" by Soundgarden and "Romantic Dreams" by Deftones.
http://loudwire.com/tags/pearl-jam/
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 2:38 pm
by epilogue
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 3:18 pm
by evenslow
durdencommatyler wrote:
This gif deserves props and needs to be used more often.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 3:19 pm
by epilogue
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 3:23 pm
by Strat
evenslow wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
This gif deserves props and needs to be used more often.
If we could alter this gif to have your avatar become the rainbow....then the internet would be home for me.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Sat October 05, 2013 3:27 pm
by evenslow
Strat wrote:evenslow wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:
This gif deserves props and needs to be used more often.
If we could alter this gif to have your avatar become the rainbow....then the internet would be home for me.
The lesson here is I need to get better at compooters.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:18 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Not that anyone else would admit to listening to it but Miley Cyrus' Wrecking Ball has a similar sound (stylistically at least) to my ears to Sirens.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:19 am
by VinylGuy
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:32 am
by dkfan9
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:46 am
by evenslow
dkfan9 wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
but what about the vocals?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:47 am
by Jorge
evenslow wrote:dkfan9 wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
but what about the vocals?
They grind on and bother him
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:48 am
by evenslow
theplatypus wrote:evenslow wrote:dkfan9 wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
but what about the vocals?
They grind on and bother him
oh, thanks.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:49 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
dkfan9 wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
Im hoping that's not something that comes up for me after I've heard it more, i really like eds vocals at this point
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Mon October 07, 2013 2:52 am
by mastaflatch
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dkfan9 wrote:i don't really like this song.
Just the overall style or are there specific parts you don't like?
overall style. it's like taking the worst parts of backspacer and making a song out of them. the vocals grind on me, the music is no good. the vocals really bother me.
Im hoping that's not something that comes up for me after I've heard it more, i really like eds vocals at this point
it's like the best attribute to this song.
