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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:25 am
by McParadigm
Basically every dem senator tonight:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:25 am
by 96583UP
wease wrote:
96583UP wrote:
wease wrote:
96583UP wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/p ... -news&_r=0

"The disclosures about the contacts came as new questions were raised about Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s ties to the Russians. According to a former senior American official, he met with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, twice in the past year. The details of the meetings were not clear, but the contact appeared to contradict testimony Mr. Sessions provided Congress during his confirmation hearing in January when he said he “did not have communications with the Russians.”
A racist AND a liar? Surely not.
you figure as a lawyer he'd be better at lying
I think that they all think that because they're with Trump, they can say or do anything they want.
maybe he groped the russians too

grab 'em by the киска

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:29 am
by 96583UP
McParadigm wrote:Basically every dem senator tonight:

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:30 am
by PHATJ
96583UP wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Basically every dem senator tonight:

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:lol: :lol:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:32 am
by 96583UP
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in palm beach we do it like this

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:37 am
by digster
PHATJ wrote:
Orpheus wrote:PhatJ, what you posted is a right-wing site's asessment of the NYT article, not the actual article. Many of the statements were "true", but only if you ignored context, and many were labeled "misleading" as well. The actual article does not paint a very rosy picture of the speech at all.
The link to the actual NY Times piece was in the article I posted, and I read that too. The issue with the "picture they painted" was that it was just that, a picture or perspective (as is the perspective of the article I posted). The NYT see it from one point of view and admittedly aren't swayed by the facts. Any way you want to slice it, Trumps speech was truthful. And by the way, both public and pundit response to the speech was overwhelming positive (something like a 68% favorability rating). Also, I'm not entirely a Trump supporter. I lean very libertarian, but I'm willing to give the man a chance. After all, he won the election. I do think the wailing and gnashing of teeth, and the protesting/rioting from the left is ridiculous.
None of that changes what Orpheus was saying; the Daily Caller took the reporting of the New York Times and mischaracterized much of what they said through their own ideological lens. The Daily Caller is fairly upfront about framing their reporting and aggregation with a particular ideological bent; it's kinda their thing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:38 am
by digster
96583UP wrote:Image

in palm beach we do it like this
HOW DARE HE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:39 am
by PHATJ
digster wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Orpheus wrote:PhatJ, what you posted is a right-wing site's asessment of the NYT article, not the actual article. Many of the statements were "true", but only if you ignored context, and many were labeled "misleading" as well. The actual article does not paint a very rosy picture of the speech at all.
The link to the actual NY Times piece was in the article I posted, and I read that too. The issue with the "picture they painted" was that it was just that, a picture or perspective (as is the perspective of the article I posted). The NYT see it from one point of view and admittedly aren't swayed by the facts. Any way you want to slice it, Trumps speech was truthful. And by the way, both public and pundit response to the speech was overwhelming positive (something like a 68% favorability rating). Also, I'm not entirely a Trump supporter. I lean very libertarian, but I'm willing to give the man a chance. After all, he won the election. I do think the wailing and gnashing of teeth, and the protesting/rioting from the left is ridiculous.
None of that changes what Orpheus was saying; the Daily Caller took the reporting of the New York Times and mischaracterized much of what they said through their own ideological lens. That's kind of what the Daily Caller does; it's not rocket science that they approach their reporting with a partisan bent.
I mentioned that in my above post.

"The issue with the "picture they painted" was that it was just that, a picture or perspective (as is the perspective of the article I posted)."

Still, the NYT does not dispute the factual accuracy of Trump's speech. They just don't like his perspective. And this is why it is so dishonest of people to always just claim Trump is lying when he's not. They just don't like the way he picture frames the truth. That is a distinct difference.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:44 am
by McParadigm
When your defense has at least two blatant caveats built into it, and still admits that you lied.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 5:02 am
by Strat
He'll have to resign right? Like at what point do you just know the entire administration was in bed with Russia? Basically at what point is trump arrested for treason?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 5:10 am
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 9:51 am
by jwfocker
Is George W. our white knight!???

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 1:55 pm
by wease
The WH is saying that he met with them because he was on the Arms Committee at the time and he was never really involved with the campaign, so everything's ok.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 2:05 pm
by Strat
Maybe he's just a bad person who smokes pot

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 2:43 pm
by McParadigm
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 2:48 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
#teamsessions

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 3:12 pm
by McParadigm
It continues to amaze me how directive these leaks are. To sabotage Sessions and to message out that the Obama admin took steps to protect info ("hey, whoever replaces Sessions, FYI...") all in one swoop is a pretty determined effort towards a singular end.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:11 pm
by Simple Torture
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:#teamsessions
lenny's a homer.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:12 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Simple Torture wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:#teamsessions
lenny's a homer.
he's my uncle #familyovereverythingelse

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu March 02, 2017 4:32 pm
by McParadigm