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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:50 am
by tragabigzanda
Riot Act is a total unicorn: 15 songs that all flow together, with a production style that maintains a vibe through the album. Never gonna happen again.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:09 am
by liebzz
I might be off on this, but check the run times on Watt produced albums in the past couple of years. It feels like they are always between 45-50 minutes.
Edit: nope. I am definitely wrong about this.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:09 am
by Anders
It was their most uneven album when it arrived, but I agree on the production style and quality. Even the artwork and the name was superb. Just wish we could replace the worst 4-5 songs with some gold, and it could be an all time great.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 12:40 pm
by stip
Anders wrote:It was their most uneven album when it arrived, but I agree on the production style and quality. Even the artwork and the name was superb. Just wish we could replace the worst 4-5 songs with some gold, and it could be an all time great.
It sounds great, but it's too long (11 songs would be a MUCH stronger record), and there are some weaker songs that coast by on how rich they feel.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 12:43 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, the production is very good.
I agree that maybe has too many songs. We talked a lot about Ed´s vocals too.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 1:27 pm
by Ms Harmless
there are no bad songs on Riot Act
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 2:42 pm
by stip
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, the production is very good.
I agree that maybe has too many songs. We talked a lot about Ed´s vocals too.
I've settled into Ed's vocals over the years, especially as later albums made them more of a choice. They certainly fit the mood of the record well.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 2:42 pm
by stip
Ms Harmless wrote:there are no bad songs on Riot Act
Not bad - just weaker.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 2:42 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Ms Harmless wrote:there are no bad songs on Riot Act
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 2:52 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:VinylGuy wrote:yeah, the production is very good.
I agree that maybe has too many songs. We talked a lot about Ed´s vocals too.
I've settled into Ed's vocals over the years, especially as later albums made them more of a choice. They certainly fit the mood of the record well.
yeah me too, i even liked them for what they are but its clear the music sometimes is asking him a different approach. I remember him talking about REM Reveal if im not mistaken, about trying to get the album into a more uplifting mood and its clear its not. There are hints of that, with I Am Mine or Down, which eventually was out of the album for being too up
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 3:12 pm
by stip
adding undone and down (and sequencing them later) definitely change the tone of the album a bit, depending on what you remove
REM went into automatic for the people planning on a loud album and ended up with a masterpiece - sometimes the intent and what you produce dont align
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 3:16 pm
by blueviper
riot act (trim the fat edition)
1. "Can't Keep"
2. "Save You"
3. "Love Boat Captain"
4. "Cropduster"
5. "I Am Mine"
6. "Thumbing My Way"
7. "You Are"
8. "Get Right"
9. "Help Help"
10. "½ Full"
11. "All or None" / Arc outro
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 3:33 pm
by guitar_davey
blueviper wrote:riot act (trim the fat edition)
1. "Can't Keep"
2. "Save You"
3. "Love Boat Captain"
4. "Cropduster"
5. "I Am Mine"
6. "Thumbing My Way"
7. "You Are"
8. "Get Right"
9. "Help Help"
10. "½ Full"
11. "All or None" / Arc outro
I love Ghost though...
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 3:36 pm
by Jorge
How are you gonna say "trim the fat" and then keep Arc
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 4:20 pm
by stip
A 12 song version of Riot Act (using only the formal release)
Cant Keep
Save You
Love Boat Captain
Cropduster
Ghost
I Am Mine
Thumbing My Way
You Are
Get Right
Green Disease
1/2 Full
All or None
It's still a bit of a plodding album, but it plods with atmosphere and a thematic weariness that makes it satisfying.
If left to my own devices I'd drop Love Boat Captain and either Green Disease, Thumbing My Way, or All or None for Down and Undone
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 4:34 pm
by Jaeti
Let's make Bushleaguer an instrumental and keep it in all of these "trimmed" versions.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:27 pm
by bodysnatcher
Oh good another album retracking conversation
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:29 pm
by Anders
blueviper wrote:riot act (trim the fat edition)
1. "Can't Keep"
2. "Save You"
3. "Love Boat Captain"
4. "Cropduster"
5. "I Am Mine"
6. "Thumbing My Way"
7. "You Are"
8. "Get Right"
9. "Help Help"
10. "½ Full"
11. "All or None" / Arc outro
Maybe Ghost for Help Help.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:31 pm
by Anders
stip wrote:A 12 song version of Riot Act (using only the formal release)
Cant Keep
Save You
Love Boat Captain
Cropduster
Ghost
I Am Mine
Thumbing My Way
You Are
Get Right
Green Disease
1/2 Full
All or None
It's still a bit of a plodding album, but it plods with atmosphere and a thematic weariness that makes it satisfying.
If left to my own devices I'd drop Love Boat Captain and either Green Disease, Thumbing My Way, or All or None for Down and Undone
Can drop Green Disease from this one.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:37 pm
by dad
bodysnatcher wrote:Oh good another album retracking conversation
haha