Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 7:28 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:Really coming around on the new Norris account, team.
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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 8:35 pm
Pains me to agree with Mickey, but he’s right. RBG was 75 the day Obama was first sworn in and she was in the hospital for pancreatic cancer surgery two weeks later (her second cancer battle in 10 years). That she stayed alive and active and inspiring people for 11 years afterwards is a testament to her strength as a person. That she stayed on the Court...Mickey wrote:Maybe. Again, she turned 80 in 2013, and there was clear precedent of Souter retiring in 2009 (in his 60s, btw) so that his successor would be nominated by a Democrat president. I mean, just put it simply: US life expectancy is around 78. Obviously that skews based on income, but there's not a really strong argument to be made that she could have expected to live out her days on the court without risking her seat going to a Republican, unless she's either arrogant enough to think that Democrats would win in perpetuity, or narcissistic enough not to care. It's not a major failing, I guess, and Breyer is just as guilty of it if not moreso (it would be so fucking funny if he died this month too) but she's definitely partly responsible for this situation regardless of the Scalia mess.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 10:02 pm
RBG bobblehead revenue would have tanked had she retired though.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 10:28 pm
I think for me it just comes back to what is my general heuristic, which I've previously detailed elsewhere on this board--that the people most responsible for bad situations are the ones who had the greatest power to evade them. So yes, after the 2012 election I (naively) thought there was some sort of demographic barrier to a GOP presidency for the foreseeable future--and maybe RBG did too. But I was a dipshit 24 year old in a master's program, and she was the 79 year old Supreme Court justice who had already had cancer and could retire knowing her successor would be named by Obama no matter what. Alternately, she could continue on the court and roll the dice. She chose the latter. This doesn't excuse Mitch McConnell's fuckery with the Scalia seat which has laid the perverse groundwork for this situation, it doesn't reduce her standing as a champion of women's equality (though her judicial record is more checkered than some of her defenders want to admit), but she does bear some blame for the current conjecture by virtue of not having made a strategic decision seven years ago. Or, to put it a different way, as a progressive I fucking wish she had pulled a Kennedy, and it's kind of the height of liberal ideology to refuse to see her as culpable.Hatfield wrote:Absolutely. This isn't RBG's fault. Most prognosticators were predicting a Democrat winning in 2016 anyway. Rising Latino vote numbers, healthy economy, etc.Chris_H_2 wrote:Well sure, she could’ve retired in 2009. I think it’s a little bit of “hindsight is 20/20” to suggest that she should’ve stepped down because of the possibility of the absolute insanity that ensued Starting with Scalia’s death.Mickey wrote:Democrats controlled the Senate until January of 2015. She could have retired at any point during those first two years of his second term, when she was already well into her 70s. Souter had already retired in 2009. So it's not hard to see either narcissism or arrogance playing a role in the case of both RBG and Stephen Breyer staying on past a perfect retirement window.Chris_H_2 wrote:You’re making a big assumption about what McConnell would’ve done in that scenario.Bi_3 wrote:Can we also all take a moment here for some internet heresy and admit that if RBG had retired during Obama's eight years of Presidency we would not be in this fucking mess?
I was more disappointed with Sandra Day O'Connor leaving in 2006 and really surprised with Anthony Kennedy's choice to leave during Trump's era.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 10:32 pm
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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 10:59 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:Nobody who's 87 should be depended upon tomakeinterpret the ultimate laws that help govern our country.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 11:00 pm
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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 11:19 pm
Yeah but if you're 78 on the other hand!
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 11:23 pm
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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 11:49 pm
that's disgustingtragabigzanda wrote:Really coming around on the new Norris account, team.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 2:52 am
Mandatory retirement at 70 for judges on the Australian High Court.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 2:54 am
65 would be even better.Birds in Hell wrote:Mandatory retirement at 70 for judges on the Australian High Court.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 2:56 am
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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 2:57 am
wouldn't that be great if RBG's workaholism led to the end of the peaceful transition of power in the US
what a great legacy
RETIRE BY 65
what a great legacy
RETIRE BY 65
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 2:57 am
Burt, when you become SCOTUS be sure to retire by 65
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 3:03 am
FUCK ICE
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 3:25 am
all judges at all levels in New York State, this is the rule, too. mandatory retirement by the end of the year that a justice/judge turns 70.Birds in Hell wrote:Mandatory retirement at 70 for judges on the Australian High Court.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 4:46 am
Nothing pisses me off more than some geriatric person white knuckling it at some job they can't seem to let go of.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 5:35 am
RBG was a republican operative. Clandestine and incognito, and with immaculate timing, she passed promptly on schedule, always loyal to the ultimate plan. Thank you for your service, RBG. May your seat be filled swiftly and righteously. Notorious RBG, indeed.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Fri September 25, 2020 6:28 am
I'll retire when they pry it from my cold dead hands96583UP wrote:Burt, when you become SCOTUS be sure to retire by 65