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Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 2:42 pm
by elliseamos
Coach wrote:No runs scored against Houston? Oh man!
that was my reaction too. what a waste of an elite performance from john lackey, too.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 8:37 pm
by numbers
Does anyone else think this debate over who will be out of the rotation when Buchholz comes back is hilarious? First of all, it is far from a given that Buchholz will come back, his vagina may start acting up again this month. Secondly, the odds of them going the next month without a starting pitcher going down are slim to none.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 8:55 pm
by numbers
Since I brought up Buchholz, I want the Sox to explore trading him this offseason. If he comes back and finishes the year out as he started it, his value would be pretty high and I say cash in now. If this guy is acting like this on his rookie deal, what the hell is he going to be like once he gets paid?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 8:56 pm
by Norah
Agree. And I say that as someone who LOVES his stuff. I just hate his fickle vagina.

I'm still pissed that Wil Myers isn't on this team.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 9:28 pm
by elliseamos
i agree on clay, he's very annoying and if he comes back it'll probably be to replace somebody that's just been injured. also, with the giants signing ted lilly today should i continue to hope that tim lincecum could join the red sox?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 11:00 pm
by numbers
I think this 2 months missed for an injury that even the preeminent sports doctor in the world told him isnt there was the final straw for me with Buchholz. He's got great stuff and can be an excellent pitcher when he musters enough courage to play, but we need to rid this team of the DL culture that emerged in the final years of the Francona era. Putting starting pitchers who arent hurt on the DL to "get some rest," JD Drew deciding every August that he was going to chillax until the playoffs start, people getting elective Tommy John surgery, it needs to stop. For better or worse, Buchholz has become the poster child for that.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 2:56 am
by elliseamos
yeah, so apparently Houston is where baseball goes to die. this is horrible to watch.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 1:19 pm
by Coach
Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 2:51 pm
by elliseamos
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
i like the addition of peavy. he reminds me of the good aspects of schilling's personality. i hope he holds up and maybe gets lester & buchholz to push themselves to be better. also, drake britton & ruby de la rosa are a pretty solid 1-2 combo.

also, hey there gomie:
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Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 4:07 pm
by numbers
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
If he comes back and is lights out his trade value is a lot higher.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 4:08 pm
by numbers
elliseamos wrote:yeah, so apparently Houston is where baseball goes to die. this is horrible to watch.
Houston has a fantastic ballpark, great place to see a game, even if the game sucks

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 4:09 pm
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:yeah, so apparently Houston is where baseball goes to die. this is horrible to watch.
Houston has a fantastic ballpark, great place to see a game, even if the game sucks
i'm not talking about the park, i'm talking about the errors and pitching.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 4:27 pm
by Coach
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
If he comes back and is lights out his trade value is a lot higher.
Agreed....however:

He's a young pitcher who's been dominant --- at times --- playing in Boston, which we all know is not for everybody. So, he seems to be a valuable piece.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 8:41 pm
by numbers
Coach wrote:
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
If he comes back and is lights out his trade value is a lot higher.
Agreed....however:

He's a young pitcher who's been dominant --- at times --- playing in Boston, which we all know is not for everybody. So, he seems to be a valuable piece.
I'm not advocating giving him away, but I'd at least look at what kind of return he would bring.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 8:58 pm
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
If he comes back and is lights out his trade value is a lot higher.
Agreed....however:

He's a young pitcher who's been dominant --- at times --- playing in Boston, which we all know is not for everybody. So, he seems to be a valuable piece.
I'm not advocating giving him away, but I'd at least look at what kind of return he would bring.
is he even "showing he can play in boston?" i think he'd be great in a place where he wouldn't be under a microscope.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 9:11 pm
by elliseamos
is Jose Valverde worth a flyer?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu August 08, 2013 12:54 am
by numbers
elliseamos wrote:is Jose Valverde worth a flyer?
I'd be more comfortable using De La Rosa than Valverde.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu August 08, 2013 1:21 am
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:is Jose Valverde worth a flyer?
I'd be more comfortable using De La Rosa than Valverde.
from what i watched last night, i agree.

that said, valverde could be useful & cheap for the next 2 months.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu August 08, 2013 2:51 am
by Coach
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:
numbers wrote:
Coach wrote:Trading Clay? Never thought about that. It's interesting. I think you only do it if you can fill his spot via a different trade or free agency.

I hear ya on his va gee gee, but if he comes back and is lights out for the rest of the year....who knows?
If he comes back and is lights out his trade value is a lot higher.
Agreed....however:

He's a young pitcher who's been dominant --- at times --- playing in Boston, which we all know is not for everybody. So, he seems to be a valuable piece.
I'm not advocating giving him away, but I'd at least look at what kind of return he would bring.
is he even "showing he can play in boston?" i think he'd be great in a place where he wouldn't be under a microscope.
If you trade him, yeah, I think there's a decent chance that he's probably lights out on another team, especially if that team is not in the AL East.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu August 08, 2013 4:00 am
by Norah
Number 7 strikes again.