I just checked the tracklist and yupJaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if askedFarmer John wrote:Can we get poll?Jaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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On my first listen, I thought the same thing about this track. Even 30 listens later, that has not changed.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffleMs Harmless wrote:I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if askedFarmer John wrote:Can we get poll?Jaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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interesting observation! I shall have to experience this myselfstip wrote:although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffleMs Harmless wrote:I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if askedFarmer John wrote:Can we get poll?Jaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the faceOmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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Whoever here mentioned the 90210 luck at 1.40, I can kinda see that, but man I love the ambience running from then until about 2.12.
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All of this makes me happyMs Harmless wrote:interesting observation! I shall have to experience this myselfstip wrote:although not nearly the case when i listen on shuffleMs Harmless wrote:I think a surprising number of us would agree that this was the penultimate Gigaton track, if askedFarmer John wrote:Can we get poll?Jaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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I like the way they fit together. Retrograde is so much more at peace with these struggles than the rest of the album, and River Cross is such a funeral, that they feel very effective.Ms Harmless wrote:I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the faceOmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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absolutely, like a euphoric sublime thought that takes flight, but then comes back to earth with the reality of lifeMcParadigm wrote:I like the way they fit together. Retrograde is so much more at peace with these struggles than the rest of the album, and River Cross is such a funeral, that they feel very effective.Ms Harmless wrote:I was like YES YES YES YES YES... NO! NO! like we were making love and it ended with you accidentally elbowing me in the faceOmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.theplatypus wrote:I just checked the tracklist and yupJaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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Penultimate literally means “next to last” or “second to last”.Tuolumne wrote:Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.theplatypus wrote:I just checked the tracklist and yupJaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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and those songs are, in fact, central, so well played!PHATJ wrote:Penultimate literally means “next to last” or “second to last”.Tuolumne wrote:Yep. Not central like Alright and 7 oclock, but the climactic track that releases alot of the tension of the album. A classic PJ moment that doesn't feel forced and fits the album very well.theplatypus wrote:I just checked the tracklist and yupJaeti wrote:This is true for me, too.Farmer John wrote:This is the penultimate Gigaton track.
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"the more mistakes, the more resolved"
that's the brevity he could be reaching for far more often
that's the brevity he could be reaching for far more often
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I'll give it a few more listens, but I also agree Retrograde would be improved as a closer, and that River Cross isn't that great but maybe I'll change my mind later.OmegaprimeVKM wrote:I can see there's somewhat of a collective shrug of the shoulders to this one here...it's certainly a retread and doesn't surprise me that this is the reaction it garners. It holds the same mood as Yellow Moon and Amongst The Waves - staring into the sunset across a barren wasteland, with Vedder's Into the Wild vocal reverb effects chucked onto the end.
I actually feel that people would feel a lot better about this if this was, at least officially, the album's closing notes. There's that grandiose aspect and a finality to the closing notes.
I'm probably alone on this but I really like it. River Cross doesn't belong on the album - it should be a b-side or something.
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this baby sounds more like 70s folk-prog than LB
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This song would've served fine as the closing track of this album.
River Cross, while a nice song, I've found to be a bit of a chore to listen to by the time it comes up. It would have been a great one-off release a year or two ago.
River Cross, while a nice song, I've found to be a bit of a chore to listen to by the time it comes up. It would have been a great one-off release a year or two ago.
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River Cross >>> Retrograde
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Yeah I’d take River Cross any day over this one. Retrograde still ain’t working for me.