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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:09 am
by WtOB?
theplatypus wrote:
WtOB? wrote:Shut up, Jorge.
Hey now, Mind Your M... I can't do it
Nah, cmon. Just give us one.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:09 am
by Thejambi
theplatypus wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ledbetterman10 wrote:
EJ wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
I think this is probably exactly the mentality.
Its been that way for a long time.
That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.

Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
It's not a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing, but it evinces some kind of failure in critical thinking. The idea that a song is made inherently better or more enjoyable just because it's being played by this particular group of people, performance or songwriting themselves notwithstanding.
Aesthetics are a powerful and sometime unexplainable thing.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:09 am
by darth_vedder
Man, I just can help but to think about this:


Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:10 am
by Jorge
Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:11 am
by VinylGuy
i really like the single. Ed is great, Mike´s solo is very good, the ending is pretty good too....great song.

Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".


Anyway, this first single is great.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:11 am
by darth_vedder
When I say "lightening bolt", I kinda feel like this guy:

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:11 am
by doug rr
darth_vedder wrote:Man, I just can help but to think about this:

:shock:
I had that exact same thought earlier...people screaming mind your manners in the same way..cringe

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:12 am
by BurtReynolds
VinylGuy wrote:i really like the single. Ed is great, Mike´s solo is very good, the ending is pretty good too....great song.

Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".


Anyway, this first single is great.
I thought we were the ones who say everything sucks no matter what? Now I'm confused.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:13 am
by E.H. Ruddock
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Great contribution, keep it up
Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:14 am
by Jorge
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Great contribution, keep it up
Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.
Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:14 am
by Strat
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.

Its kind of how you act sometimes :\

You can subdue your critical analysis when taking part in such an emotional medium. That doesnt make you less able to accurately judge your enjoyment.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:15 am
by BurtReynolds
doug rr wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Man, I just can help but to think about this:

:shock:
I had that exact same thought earlier...people screaming mind your manners in the same way..cringe
this wouldnt be the worst thing to happen to the statues up front.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:16 am
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:
Ledbetterman10 wrote:
EJ wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
I think this is probably exactly the mentality.
Its been that way for a long time.
That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.

Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
I think, with a lot of artists I like, the actual nuts and bolts of the songwriting is secondary to the overall sound created by that particular bunch of musicians. That isn't to say it's not still important, of course it is, but what I like about Pearl Jam (or The Cure or Unwound or Shellac or Sonic Youth, etc.) isn't attributable to songwriting alone. There's a unique noise that this particular bunch of people make when they play together that I respond to: great songs are a (very welcome) bonus.

I think that's one of the reasons I'm frequently jarred when a band alters their line-up, it often results in a pretty dramatic alteration of that base sound. Pearl Jam have navigated that incredibly well over their career. They've really been four very different Pearl Jams. On the other hand, The Cure (despite being my favourite band of all time) pretty much dropped off the radar to me creatively after Boris Williams quit as their drummer. Good songs alone aren't enough if the underlying feel doesn't work for me any longer. I have similar feelings about Queens of the Stone Age too.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:17 am
by VinylGuy
BurtReynolds wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:i really like the single. Ed is great, Mike´s solo is very good, the ending is pretty good too....great song.

Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".


Anyway, this first single is great.
I thought we were the ones who say everything sucks no matter what? Now I'm confused.
Me? Im a fanboy.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:18 am
by Thejambi
Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.

Its kind of how you act sometimes :\

You can subdue your critical analysis when taking part in such an emotional medium. That doesnt make you less able to accurately judge your enjoyment.
This. A meal doesn't need to be lobster and steak to get excited about it nor does it need to be to genuinely enjoy the meal. Sometimes a nasty ass Big Mac hits the spot even though there are a million better burgers out there.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:18 am
by darth_vedder
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Great contribution, keep it up
Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.
Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:19 am
by gems and rhinestones
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:20 am
by WtOB?
darth_vedder wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Great contribution, keep it up
Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.
Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!
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OK I WILL

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:20 am
by Birds in Hell
VinylGuy wrote: Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
With all due respect to you both, I think that's asinine.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:21 am
by Strat
Birds in Hell wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ledbetterman10 wrote:
EJ wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
I think this is probably exactly the mentality.
Its been that way for a long time.
That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.

Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
I think, with a lot of artists I like, the actual nuts and bolts of the songwriting is secondary to the overall sound created by that particular bunch of musicians. That isn't to say it's not still important, of course it is, but what I like about Pearl Jam (or The Cure or Unwound or Shellac or Sonic Youth, etc.) isn't attributable to songwriting alone. There's a unique noise that this particular bunch of people make when they play together that I respond to: great songs are a (very welcome) bonus.

I think that's one of the reasons I'm frequently jarred when a band alters their line-up, it often results in a pretty dramatic alteration of that base sound. Pearl Jam have navigated that incredibly well over their career. They've really been four very different Pearl Jams. On the other hand, The Cure (despite being my favourite band of all time) pretty much dropped off the radar to me creatively after Boris Williams quit as their drummer. Good songs alone aren't enough if the underlying feel doesn't work for me any longer. I have similar feelings about Queens of the Stone Age too.

Im worried about the new "Replacements" but if their EP is any indication then the vibe that made the replacements great - is still there...