Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri July 12, 2013 2:09 am
Nah, cmon. Just give us one.theplatypus wrote:Hey now, Mind Your M... I can't do itWtOB? wrote:Shut up, Jorge.
Nah, cmon. Just give us one.theplatypus wrote:Hey now, Mind Your M... I can't do itWtOB? wrote:Shut up, Jorge.
Aesthetics are a powerful and sometime unexplainable thing.theplatypus wrote:It's not a bad thing, but it evinces some kind of failure in critical thinking. The idea that a song is made inherently better or more enjoyable just because it's being played by this particular group of people, performance or songwriting themselves notwithstanding.Thejambi wrote:It's not a bad thing.Strat wrote:Ledbetterman10 wrote:That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.EJ wrote:Its been that way for a long time.McParadigm wrote:I think this is probably exactly the mentality.I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?

darth_vedder wrote:Man, I just can help but to think about this:
I thought we were the ones who say everything sucks no matter what? Now I'm confused.VinylGuy wrote:i really like the single. Ed is great, Mike´s solo is very good, the ending is pretty good too....great song.
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
Anyway, this first single is great.
Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.theplatypus wrote:Great contribution, keep it upE.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.theplatypus wrote:Great contribution, keep it upE.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
theplatypus wrote:Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
this wouldnt be the worst thing to happen to the statues up front.doug rr wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Man, I just can help but to think about this:
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I had that exact same thought earlier...people screaming mind your manners in the same way..cringe
I think, with a lot of artists I like, the actual nuts and bolts of the songwriting is secondary to the overall sound created by that particular bunch of musicians. That isn't to say it's not still important, of course it is, but what I like about Pearl Jam (or The Cure or Unwound or Shellac or Sonic Youth, etc.) isn't attributable to songwriting alone. There's a unique noise that this particular bunch of people make when they play together that I respond to: great songs are a (very welcome) bonus.Strat wrote:Ledbetterman10 wrote:That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.EJ wrote:Its been that way for a long time.McParadigm wrote:I think this is probably exactly the mentality.I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
Me? Im a fanboy.BurtReynolds wrote:I thought we were the ones who say everything sucks no matter what? Now I'm confused.VinylGuy wrote:i really like the single. Ed is great, Mike´s solo is very good, the ending is pretty good too....great song.
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
Anyway, this first single is great.
This. A meal doesn't need to be lobster and steak to get excited about it nor does it need to be to genuinely enjoy the meal. Sometimes a nasty ass Big Mac hits the spot even though there are a million better burgers out there.Strat wrote:theplatypus wrote:Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Its kind of how you act sometimes :\
You can subdue your critical analysis when taking part in such an emotional medium. That doesnt make you less able to accurately judge your enjoyment.
theplatypus wrote:Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.theplatypus wrote:Great contribution, keep it upE.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh

This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
OK I WILLdarth_vedder wrote:theplatypus wrote:Why do you always make me feel bad about giving you shit. Throw some shit right back!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sorry man. It's just hard to come in here and catch up and then try and post. I'll try and do better.theplatypus wrote:Great contribution, keep it upE.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
With all due respect to you both, I think that's asinine.VinylGuy wrote: Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
Birds in Hell wrote:I think, with a lot of artists I like, the actual nuts and bolts of the songwriting is secondary to the overall sound created by that particular bunch of musicians. That isn't to say it's not still important, of course it is, but what I like about Pearl Jam (or The Cure or Unwound or Shellac or Sonic Youth, etc.) isn't attributable to songwriting alone. There's a unique noise that this particular bunch of people make when they play together that I respond to: great songs are a (very welcome) bonus.Strat wrote:Ledbetterman10 wrote:That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.EJ wrote:Its been that way for a long time.McParadigm wrote:I think this is probably exactly the mentality.I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."
Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song
I think that's one of the reasons I'm frequently jarred when a band alters their line-up, it often results in a pretty dramatic alteration of that base sound. Pearl Jam have navigated that incredibly well over their career. They've really been four very different Pearl Jams. On the other hand, The Cure (despite being my favourite band of all time) pretty much dropped off the radar to me creatively after Boris Williams quit as their drummer. Good songs alone aren't enough if the underlying feel doesn't work for me any longer. I have similar feelings about Queens of the Stone Age too.