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Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 11:25 am
by dimejinky99
simple schoolboy wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Nail on head
God you're adorable.

Happy for you to detail any differences between the two. I’ll wait.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 11:29 am
by spike
The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine tweeting Molotov cocktail instructions.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 11:50 am
by Anders
dimejinky99 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Nail on head
God you're adorable.

Happy for you to detail any differences between the two. I’ll wait.
That is really for another thread, and another discussion. The two issues are clearly not identical.

What about Yemen? What about Western Sahara? What about Mindanao? What about Georgia? What about Transnistria? What about Syria? I could go on an on. They are all separate issues.

The invasion of Ukraine is a terrible crime against a free democratic nation. It must stop.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 11:54 am
by Anders

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 12:00 pm
by elliseamos
Anders wrote:
If true, I am truly shocked. But this is hopefully good news for your family & Ukraine overall.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 12:17 pm
by elliseamos
Should be expected, but still sad considering their own paychecks are now worthless.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 12:30 pm
by dimejinky99
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Nail on head
God you're adorable.

Happy for you to detail any differences between the two. I’ll wait.
That is really for another thread, and another discussion. The two issues are clearly not identical.

What about Yemen? What about Western Sahara? What about Mindanao? What about Georgia? What about Transnistria? What about Syria? I could go on an on. They are all separate issues.

The invasion of Ukraine is a terrible crime against a free democratic nation. It must stop.
They’re all the same though. Invading/occupying forces carrying out atrocities being met with resistance from normal people. How is it any different in Palestine? In Northern Ireland? Anywhere? And then the occupier frames those people as terrorists. Because of course.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 12:38 pm
by dimejinky99
You’re right though. Another time.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 1:29 pm
by dimejinky99
Fuck fuck fuck

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 1:32 pm
by Anders
Belarus saying they might join the war on Russia’s side. Already fired rockets at Ukraine.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 2:13 pm
by elliseamos

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 2:26 pm
by elliseamos
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday a Ukrainian delegation would meet with a Russian delegation "without preconditions."

Driving the news: Zelensky said on Telegram that following a conversation with Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko the two groups would meet on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River. Zelensky had previously rejected a Russian offer to meet in Belarus.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 2:39 pm
by Anders

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 2:42 pm
by Anders
elliseamos wrote:Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday a Ukrainian delegation would meet with a Russian delegation "without preconditions."

Driving the news: Zelensky said on Telegram that following a conversation with Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko the two groups would meet on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River. Zelensky had previously rejected a Russian offer to meet in Belarus.
With the Russian ultimatum to meet a few days ago (no arms or soldiers in Ukraine ever, sign deal they can never go into NATO, give up occupied territories) as a starting point, an agreement seems difficult. But perhaps Putin could turn things around for him a little with a peace deal. Would also spare thousands of human lives.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 2:54 pm
by elliseamos
Anders wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday a Ukrainian delegation would meet with a Russian delegation "without preconditions."

Driving the news: Zelensky said on Telegram that following a conversation with Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko the two groups would meet on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River. Zelensky had previously rejected a Russian offer to meet in Belarus.
With the Russian ultimatum to meet a few days ago (no arms or soldiers in Ukraine ever, sign deal they can never go into NATO, give up occupied territories) as a starting point, an agreement seems difficult. But perhaps Putin could turn things around for him a little with a peace deal. Would also spare thousands of human lives.
Right. I read "no preconditions" to mean Putin has to be more open, not Zelensky.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 5:40 pm
by Anders
Read that there is speculation in Russia, that Putin will only ask for Donbas independence, and nothing else. But difficult to trust Russian media.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 5:40 pm
by Anders

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 6:16 pm
by Anders
Just heard that the town outside of Kherson city where my sister in law’s parents live, was recaptured by Ukrainian forces this evening, after a few days occupation by Russian forces.

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 6:30 pm
by elliseamos

Re: Invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun February 27, 2022 6:31 pm
by Simple Torture
In around 95% of videos I've seen of Ukrainian civilians being badass--mocking Russian soldiers, moving landmines off of roads with their bare hands, detaining ejected Russian pilots, etc.--these dudes do it all while ripping butts.