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Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 12:22 am
by bodysnatcher
durdencommatyler wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:Either way, Amongst The Waves still sucks
:thumbsup:
Yeah, it's terrible.
Man, I love Amongst the Waves. :luv:
dammit joey

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 12:43 am
by BurtReynolds
Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 12:54 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 1:00 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 1:04 am
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:A really boring song. Not for any of the bizarre/typically Trag reasons that Trag listed. It's just a very unexciting performance of a very vanilla composition. Like a lot of latter-day Pearl Jam songs I dislike, I can pick out a few elements that work for me, but the sum total of them fall flat.
The hazy daydream feel of the verses is pretty cool, and it's a strong vocal verse melody (and performance) from Eddie. It just didn't need the Anthem 101 chorus
This is very much correct. The song builds to an anticlimactic center -- a pretty common ailment of modern PJ tracks, really. I find a decent live version, situated between stronger, more pivotal songs, plays better than the sterile studio version situated between "Just Breathe" and "Unthought Known."

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:01 am
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.
Nice try, Reynolds, but it really doesn't.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:03 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:I happen to be listening to Vince Vaughn on the Off Camera podcast right now, and he's talking about what happened with The Watch after the Trevon Martin killing. And Sam says, "That's what happens when the corporation gets involved in the art: they end up chasing the customer."

That's exactly my problem with Amongst the Waves. Is it a "bad song"? No. But I feel like it's chasing the die-hard Pearl Jam fan with the most bland, redundant take on many songs they've done before.
I'm sure this is where the whole pitchfork wielding PRAMG crowd comes from. And you're certainly appealing to those that subscribe. Since I never did, you lost me.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:04 am
by epilogue
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:A really boring song. Not for any of the bizarre/typically Trag reasons that Trag listed. It's just a very unexciting performance of a very vanilla composition. Like a lot of latter-day Pearl Jam songs I dislike, I can pick out a few elements that work for me, but the sum total of them fall flat.
The hazy daydream feel of the verses is pretty cool, and it's a strong vocal verse melody (and performance) from Eddie. It just didn't need the Anthem 101 chorus
This is very much correct. The song builds to an anticlimactic center -- a pretty common ailment of modern PJ tracks, really. I find a decent live version, situated between stronger, more pivotal songs, plays better than the sterile studio version situated between "Just Breathe" and "Unthought Known."
Just Breathe is also outstanding Pearl Jam. Man Backspacer should be such a better album.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:08 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:09 am
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.
Nice try, Reynolds, but it really doesn't.
maybe with about 10% more Train.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:11 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I happen to be listening to Vince Vaughn on the Off Camera podcast right now, and he's talking about what happened with The Watch after the Trevon Martin killing. And Sam says, "That's what happens when the corporation gets involved in the art: they end up chasing the customer."

That's exactly my problem with Amongst the Waves. Is it a "bad song"? No. But I feel like it's chasing the die-hard Pearl Jam fan with the most bland, redundant take on many songs they've done before.
I'm sure this is where the whole pitchfork wielding PRAMG crowd comes from. And you're certainly appealing to those that subscribe. Since I never did, you lost me.
Me, right now:

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You wife's hot.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:12 am
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.
Nice try, Reynolds, but it really doesn't.
maybe with about 10% more Train.
It sounds way more like Train than Creed. And it sounds like Train about as much as Train sounds like a train.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:43 am
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:A really boring song. Not for any of the bizarre/typically Trag reasons that Trag listed. It's just a very unexciting performance of a very vanilla composition. Like a lot of latter-day Pearl Jam songs I dislike, I can pick out a few elements that work for me, but the sum total of them fall flat.
The hazy daydream feel of the verses is pretty cool, and it's a strong vocal verse melody (and performance) from Eddie. It just didn't need the Anthem 101 chorus
This is very much correct. The song builds to an anticlimactic center -- a pretty common ailment of modern PJ tracks, really. I find a decent live version, situated between stronger, more pivotal songs, plays better than the sterile studio version situated between "Just Breathe" and "Unthought Known."
Just Breathe is also outstanding Pearl Jam. Man Backspacer should be such a better album.
It's a pretty excellent little record as is

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:46 am
by epilogue
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:A really boring song. Not for any of the bizarre/typically Trag reasons that Trag listed. It's just a very unexciting performance of a very vanilla composition. Like a lot of latter-day Pearl Jam songs I dislike, I can pick out a few elements that work for me, but the sum total of them fall flat.
The hazy daydream feel of the verses is pretty cool, and it's a strong vocal verse melody (and performance) from Eddie. It just didn't need the Anthem 101 chorus
This is very much correct. The song builds to an anticlimactic center -- a pretty common ailment of modern PJ tracks, really. I find a decent live version, situated between stronger, more pivotal songs, plays better than the sterile studio version situated between "Just Breathe" and "Unthought Known."
Just Breathe is also outstanding Pearl Jam. Man Backspacer should be such a better album.
It's a pretty excellent little record as is
I has it's moments, yes. But it just doesn't hang together for me. There are three songs I really dislike. And four that I love. The rest is completely forgettable/uneffective/uninteresting/meh/whatever.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:57 am
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.
Nice try, Reynolds, but it really doesn't.
maybe with about 10% more Train.
It sounds way more like Train than Creed. And it sounds like Train about as much as Train sounds like a train.
Ok I'll go as far as saying Amongst the Waves sounds like 20% Train and 80% Creed, but that's my final offer.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 2:58 am
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Amongst The Waves sounds like a Creed song. I can't say anything more damning than that.
Nice try, Reynolds, but it really doesn't.
maybe with about 10% more Train.
It sounds way more like Train than Creed. And it sounds like Train about as much as Train sounds like a train.
Ok I'll go as far as saying Amongst the Waves sounds like 20% Train and 80% Creed, but that's my final offer.
NO DEAL

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 3:50 am
by chewm
Amongst the waves is ok but Just Breathe is not.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 3:51 am
by Bammer
Pearl Jam fans are the worst

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 4:24 am
by Kevin Davis
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:A really boring song. Not for any of the bizarre/typically Trag reasons that Trag listed. It's just a very unexciting performance of a very vanilla composition. Like a lot of latter-day Pearl Jam songs I dislike, I can pick out a few elements that work for me, but the sum total of them fall flat.
The hazy daydream feel of the verses is pretty cool, and it's a strong vocal verse melody (and performance) from Eddie. It just didn't need the Anthem 101 chorus
This is very much correct. The song builds to an anticlimactic center -- a pretty common ailment of modern PJ tracks, really. I find a decent live version, situated between stronger, more pivotal songs, plays better than the sterile studio version situated between "Just Breathe" and "Unthought Known."
Just Breathe is also outstanding Pearl Jam. Man Backspacer should be such a better album.
I like "Just Breathe" fine, J. I actually like "Backspacer" quite a bit, but I think that middle stretch is its weakest spot. Too much midtempo all at once, right after it comes out swinging with four hard-hitters.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Wed October 05, 2016 10:18 am
by LetMeSleep
Just Breathe is very mediocre with barely acceptable production and supporting work from the band. I recently played Backspacer and JB was so awful that ATW felt fresh when it started. By the chorus I was over it. And afte those two we get UK. Now I'm not a hater of this song. It has its moments. It feels forced but it also has the only real space on the album being the instrumental section before nothing left. That brief bit of room is so freeing after the last few songs.