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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:41 pm
by Norah
They're a tiny record label out of Portland, which is where he's based.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:42 pm
by Norah
Also I got the link from his official twitter.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:43 pm
by Simple Torture
Oh, I believe you, don't worry. It's just the page was so budget. Mine is also now ordered!

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:43 pm
by Strat
I just feel it will be a perfect record to have on vinyl. This and Post War are my fav's. Amazing.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:45 pm
by Norah
I don't even remember post war. The only one's I listen to anymore are Transfiguration and End Of Amnesia.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Wed February 13, 2013 11:47 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:I don't even remember post war. The only one's I listen to anymore are Transfiguration and End Of Amnesia.

Poison cup

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 1:31 am
by Strat
Rookie question comin' at ya.


Ok, so, you balance your tone arm and all is fine and dandy. Then maybe you get a 180 Gram LP and you hear some distorted tones coing through the speakers. Nothing has changed. The 180 gram LP is a bit thicker, no? If so - will that impact the positioning of the needle, arm etc?? Would that not potentially be an issue?

If not?

Then why does my new Felice Brothers album sound worse than all my others :( There is some distortion going on and i've cleaned it and cant figure out why....

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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 3:54 am
by super nintendo chalmers
If I had to guess maybe the lp was mastered from digital.

Or it's just that its the Felice Brothers.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 4:12 am
by Strat
super nintendo chalmers wrote:If I had to guess maybe the lp was mastered from digital.

Or it's just that its the Felice Brothers.

something was up. Side 2 of LP 2 was fine.


I may need a better scrubbing....

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 4:15 am
by Norah
Sometimes you just get a bad press.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 6:14 am
by Strat
I may have.... :/


I'll tell you what I got a great press on ...

Gunslinger ballads.

Man alive what a great time that listen was!

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 6:25 am
by washing machine
Transfiguration is my favorite M. Ward album, but I have a lot of shopping to do before this. I'll probably regret this later, but I'm passing.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 6:27 am
by washing machine
I'm so into everything balanced tone arms it is absolutely sickening.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 3:01 pm
by southp
Strat wrote:Rookie question comin' at ya.


Ok, so, you balance your tone arm and all is fine and dandy. Then maybe you get a 180 Gram LP and you hear some distorted tones coing through the speakers. Nothing has changed. The 180 gram LP is a bit thicker, no? If so - will that impact the positioning of the needle, arm etc?? Would that not potentially be an issue?

If not?

Then why does my new Felice Brothers album sound worse than all my others :( There is some distortion going on and i've cleaned it and cant figure out why....

:\

Just checking, but once you balanced the tone arm you added the appropriate counter weight for your cartridge right? i.e. 1.5-2g?
Next thing... is the distortion coming on the inner grooves, like the last song on the side? If so you need to add anti-skate (if your TT has it) or you need to adjust the alignment of the cart in the headshell.

Lastly, and I can't stress this enough, new records are not made to the same standard of quality as they were in the 60s-80's. They definitely need to be cleaned when you first get them, and even then there are often defects or they are sourced from shitty digital masters. Unless it's a Neil Young or Jimi Hendrix all-analog reissue, then you are just as well to go out and get an original pressing in the best quality you can find. Plus its much more satisfying when you find it.

Case in point: One of my favorite Stones albums is the US version of Out of Our heads (Last Time, Satisfaction, Play with Fire) and while I could have simply clicked "buy it now" on a digitally remastered POS, I made it my mission to find THE best version out there....an original MONO pressing on the Decca label with the US tracklist but manufactured in the UK. I must have bought 3 copies before I was finally happy with one. Sure it was a lengthy process, but that's the kind of hunt that makes record collecting rewarding.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 4:31 pm
by liebzz
In the realm of silly and naive compared to all this technical stuff, I just really enjoy the process of spending a long time in used record stores in the East Village and Williamsburg and finding cheap gems. Since I am one of very few with any interest in classic rock, I tend to find classic albums under $8 each (including the Springsteen catalogue from Greetings through Tunnel of Love, Beatles, Tom Petty, numerous Neil Young albums for $1 [On the Beach, Trans, Comes A Times, After the Goldrush, Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere], and on and on). It's actually been too long since I took an afternoon for this.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 6:26 pm
by washing machine
southp wrote:Lastly, and I can't stress this enough, new records are not made to the same standard of quality as they were in the 60s-80's. They definitely need to be cleaned when you first get them, and even then there are often defects or they are sourced from shitty digital masters. Unless it's a Neil Young or Jimi Hendrix all-analog reissue, then you are just as well to go out and get an original pressing in the best quality you can find. Plus its much more satisfying when you find it.
Should I assume that this quality downgrade applies to all of those new Beatles remasters hitting the stores? I am very hesitant to pick any of those up.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 7:09 pm
by southp
surface the north wrote:
southp wrote:Lastly, and I can't stress this enough, new records are not made to the same standard of quality as they were in the 60s-80's. They definitely need to be cleaned when you first get them, and even then there are often defects or they are sourced from shitty digital masters. Unless it's a Neil Young or Jimi Hendrix all-analog reissue, then you are just as well to go out and get an original pressing in the best quality you can find. Plus its much more satisfying when you find it.
Should I assume that this quality downgrade applies to all of those new Beatles remasters hitting the stores? I am very hesitant to pick any of those up.
I bought two of those remasters... Revolver and Past Masters because I was missing both all together in my collection. I listened to Revolver and was quite happy, but I'm also trying to pick my battles. A pristine mono copy of Revolver on the Parlophone label would be sweet but it would take some patience and some $$. In the meantime I wanted a "listenable" copy of one of my favorite Beatles records.

The major difference between Beatles and Stones record collecting is that the Beatles records tended to be kept in good condition as the owners hung onto them, and for some reason the Stones albums you find are worn-out and trashed.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 7:13 pm
by washing machine
southp wrote:The major difference between Beatles and Stones record collecting is that the Beatles records tended to be kept in good condition as the owners hung onto them, and for some reason the Stones albums you find are worn-out and trashed.
:lol: A used record's mysterious past is a big part of the fun, isn't it? I especially like when the previous owner has written or drawn on the sleeve in a way that tells a story. My copy of the White Album has ballpoint dots next to what I assume were the owner's favorite songs and a heart next to "I Will."

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 7:50 pm
by Strat

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Thu February 14, 2013 10:47 pm
by Simple Torture
This week's impulse buy:
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