Red Mosquito

theplatypus wrote:Sorry for the delay.

I'm gonna try to keep it spoiler-free.

It's a big, dopey comic book movie. In many ways, it's the biggest, dopiest and most comic-book-y Marvel movie yet, so it's a hard film to hate if you're into that. It's riddled with inconsistencies, gaping holes in logic, obvious plot machinations, egregious contrivances, nonsensical and overlong battle scenes, way too many knowing winks at the audience. It's about as messy and weirdly disjointed as Iron Man 2. It also seems to undo (or, in true comic book fashion, retcon) key character and story developments from Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3 (especially the latter), and sort of waves these inconsistencies off with throwaway lines. A lot of the dialogue is cheesier than action film since Troy. And a disturbing amount of the film is concerned with SETTING UP future events-- entire sequences that have no reason to be there except to tease things that are irrelevant to the plot of THIS film. It's nowhere near as "fun" as the first one. But there's something special about seeing these characters interact on screen. A lot of the fight scenes are dazzling. The international setting is great. There are really wonderful moments of humor, as well as some touching character moments. And Ultron is really fucking cool. Altogether a worthwhile superhero blockbuster: loud, obnoxious, kinda hokey, kinda cookie-cutter, kinda let's-set-up-the-next-installment-y (yes, I made that an adjective) but a rollicking good time.

MVP: Hawkeye.

As for this,

theplatypus wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:Possible spoiler - after credits scene leaked.....or could be fake
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 89887.html

I will be able to confirm this tomorrow

super duper fake. don't stick around after the mid-credits teaser, there's nothing there.

Spoiler: show

Thor's weird water dream quest (???) was fucking pointless.

stip wrote:I've found that Iron Man 2 has been the weakest of the marvel movies? Do you think this one is better, and you're just pointing out a similar flaw that they share, or that they're comparable in terms of quality as well.

theplatypus wrote:

stip wrote:I've found that Iron Man 2 has been the weakest of the marvel movies? Do you think this one is better, and you're just pointing out a similar flaw that they share, or that they're comparable in terms of quality as well.

Age of Ultron is for sure better. They're just similar in how strangely disjointed they get right along the second act.

Strat wrote:Should I watch Iron Man 3? Never did. 2 was terrible

Strat wrote:Should I watch Iron Man 3? Never did. 2 was terrible

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:Should I watch Iron Man 3? Never did. 2 was terrible

Yes, you definitely should. It's probably my favorite movie with Iron Man in it.

theplatypus wrote:Well, that one's a much better movie. But IM3 is shinier.

Spoiler: show

(such as the super-rushed and underdeveloped ending of "oh also we fixed Pepper and I got the arc reactor out of my chest")

theplatypus wrote:I thought it was more engaging, more stylish and more sharply directed than the previous Iron Man films or Avengers. Funnier, too. Other than a few key things

Spoiler: show

(such as the super-rushed and underdeveloped ending of "oh also we fixed Pepper and I got the arc reactor out of my chest")

I like it quite a bit. I like the journey and where it left Tony in terms of his character arc. It's a shame they decided to pretty much just undo it with Age of Ultron.