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Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:37 pm
by tommymtcom
It always annoyed me how he never played the piano part in Rival.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:38 pm
by harmless
What I'm wondering is generally when he sounds bad on record, which is not often. I'm not surprised he has to smash the keys to hear himself over Matt, Jeff and three electric guitars thrashing open chords.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:39 pm
by Anders
You know BO'B probably has done some fixin in the studio.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:41 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:They're all a really, really, really fucking sloppy player live.
Sure, but Boom is on another level. Namely fifth-grade level.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:41 pm
by Kaius
Part of the reason I brought up Boom is because I know I'm not keen on whether he's even good at what he does compared to his peers.
It still sort of bugs me that hes either under appreciated or underutilized considering the dynamic he adds to their sound.
Or maybe he's been used to the max of his ability, which begs the question, "why not find a better player?"

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:42 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:They're all a really, really, really fucking sloppy player live.
Sure, but Boom is on another level. Namely fifth-grade level.
:gomez:

You're just... ugh.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:42 pm
by Norah
Or why just get rid of him all together? Pearl Jam was great for 12 years without an organist.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:42 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:They're all a really, really, really fucking sloppy player live.
Sure, but Boom is on another level. Namely fifth-grade level.
:gomez:

You're just... ugh.
Right. The word you are looking for is right.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:44 pm
by harmless
Kaius wrote:Part of the reason I brought up Boom is because I know I'm not keen on whether he's even good at what he does compared to his peers.
It still sort of bugs me that hes either under appreciated or underutilized considering the dynamic he adds to their sound.
Or maybe he's been used to the max of his ability, which begs the question, "why not find a better player?"
Because Ed doesn't smoke in Hawaii with another player.

But yeah I agree with you really; it doesn't bother me at all that there may be better organ players out there. By and large, I think his sound adds something to the dynamics of the band and he is good enough. This is undoubtedly how other people who don't know anything about drums (and some who do) feel about Matt.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:44 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:They're all a really, really, really fucking sloppy player live.
Sure, but Boom is on another level. Namely fifth-grade level.
:gomez:

You're just... ugh.
Did you see the title of that picture I posted in the last page?

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:45 pm
by hlniv
cutuphalfdead wrote:Or why just get rid of him all together? Pearl Jam was great for 12 years without an organist.
He clearly has some dirt on Ed from some random Hawaii excursion that he has bribed his way into a touring gig

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:47 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:They're all a really, really, really fucking sloppy player live.
Sure, but Boom is on another level. Namely fifth-grade level.
:gomez:

You're just... ugh.
Did you see the title of that picture I posted in the last page?
You mean your visual representation of your oft-touted view that he sounds like he's playing with boxing gloves?

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:47 pm
by Jorge
Yes, the filename.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:53 pm
by Leatherhead
tommymctom wrote:It always annoyed me how he never played the piano part in Rival.
Listening to "The Guests are so Refined" compilation from 2003 in Japan, and he's playing this part.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:55 pm
by Kaius
harmless wrote:
Kaius wrote:Part of the reason I brought up Boom is because I know I'm not keen on whether he's even good at what he does compared to his peers.
It still sort of bugs me that hes either under appreciated or underutilized considering the dynamic he adds to their sound.
Or maybe he's been used to the max of his ability, which begs the question, "why not find a better player?"
Because Ed doesn't smoke in Hawaii with another player.

But yeah I agree with you really; it doesn't bother me at all that there may be better organ players out there. By and large, I think his sound adds something to the dynamics of the band and he is good enough. This is undoubtedly how other people who don't know anything about drums (and some who do) feel about Matt.
There's always someone better, as far as that goes. It's all about chemistry

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:55 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:Yes, the filename.
Hahaha just saw it. :nice:

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:56 pm
by harmless
Kaius wrote:
harmless wrote:
Kaius wrote:Part of the reason I brought up Boom is because I know I'm not keen on whether he's even good at what he does compared to his peers.
It still sort of bugs me that hes either under appreciated or underutilized considering the dynamic he adds to their sound.
Or maybe he's been used to the max of his ability, which begs the question, "why not find a better player?"
Because Ed doesn't smoke in Hawaii with another player.

But yeah I agree with you really; it doesn't bother me at all that there may be better organ players out there. By and large, I think his sound adds something to the dynamics of the band and he is good enough. This is undoubtedly how other people who don't know anything about drums (and some who do) feel about Matt.
There's always someone better, as far as that goes. It's all about chemistry
Yup. I see no issues with chemistry regarding Boom because they're all thrashing around insensitively these days, but I do think Matt is not a good fit.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 6:59 pm
by Kaius
Who should they get?

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 7:03 pm
by McParadigm
Nobody, for nothing, until they've kicked Ed out of the songwriting department. Guy needs a timeout something fierce.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Riot Act

Posted: Tue January 28, 2014 7:06 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:Nobody, for nothing, until they've kicked Ed out of the songwriting department. Guy needs a timeout something fierce.
desperately trying to be loved by RM?