Red Mosquito

I like the song a lot, but it's perfect as a b-side, the kind of surprise you get once you start falling deeper into seeing the total scope of a band's catalog.

lvc wrote:I really don't understand lusty Leatherman longing.

same. what charms this song has it owes at least in part to its bside status. pilate would also be elevated as a bside

stip wrote:

lvc wrote:I really don't understand lusty Leatherman longing.

same. what charms this song has it owes at least in part to its bside status. pilate would also be elevated as a bside

this is 100% right. we're conditioned to hear this song as a b-side, and anytime we discuss its bona fides it's naturallly within that context and usually relative to other songs that made the album.

I would add Whale Song to the tracklist in a heartbeat.

Hypnos wrote:I would add Whale Song to the tracklist in a heartbeat.

♫ they won't fight back... ♫

Leatherman would be perfect in Reddots place.

tragabigzanda wrote:Yield is an excellent album. Its major flaw is its adherence to the anthemic song trope, with Given to Fly and In Hiding being the two most boring songs on the album. Replace those with Leatherman and HWIC and you have gnarly little oddball garage album:

Brain of J
Faithful
No Way
Leatherman
Wishlist
Pilate
Do the Evolution
Red Dot
MFC
Low Light
Happy When I'm Crying
Push Me, Pull Me
All Those Yesterdays

Total agreement about GTF and In Hiding, the latter especially. I usually skip it.

If this album wasn’t Eddie yielding to his bandmates, those Mike/Stone songs get left off for weird Ed/Jeff ones.

Tj wrote:Leatherman would be perfect in Reddots place.

well red dot is the most pointless moment on any pearl jam studio album. easy trade

tragabigzanda wrote: You'd also have the fun of a meta-sample, with PMPM sampled in HWIC before PMPM even comes up on the album.

Hypnos wrote:I would add Whale Song to the tracklist in a heartbeat.

Yes!

tragabigzanda wrote: You'd also have the fun of a meta-sample, with PMPM sampled in HWIC before PMPM even comes up on the album.

I thought it was the other way around. Does Happy sample Push Me, too?

People are really talking about swapping out given to fly for leatherman?

Can you guys hear yourselves?

Only flaw this album has is happy when I’m cryin isn’t in it.

And yeah I’d swap it out for red dot or even stick it up front very first song. Then go into BOJ and away we go

The case I'd make for Red Dot is this:

It is an important part of Pearl Jam's DNA to, quoting Wendell Berry, "be like the fox who makes more tracks than is necessary, some in the wrong direction". If Yield is the culmination of the cycle of Pearl Jam's career--meteoric rise to fame, furious nervous breakdown, hard-headed retreat until you're far enough from the center of attention to relax--then Red Dot is a little reminder that they'll still do something irritating just to piss people off.

But it's only a minute and it's way more lighthearted than Bugs. It made the record because Yield is an album telling a story, not a playlist of great songs.

As for Pilate, it used to be my least favorite. But I kind of like it coming after the Wishlist fade out of "I wish I was the radio song" and before Do the Evolution which was the radio song. Another one of those foxy choices.

lvc wrote:The case I'd make for Red Dot is this:

It is an important part of Pearl Jam's DNA to, quoting Wendell Berry, "be like the fox who makes more tracks than is necessary, some in the wrong direction". If Yield is the culmination of the cycle of Pearl Jam's career--meteoric rise to fame, furious nervous breakdown, hard-headed retreat until you're far enough from the center of attention to relax--then Red Dot is a little reminder that they'll still do something irritating just to piss people off.

But it's only a minute and it's way more lighthearted than Bugs. It made the record because Yield is an album telling a story, not a playlist of great songs.

As for Pilate, it used to be my least favorite. But I kind of like it coming after the Wishlist fade out of "I wish I was the radio song" and before Do the Evolution which was the radio song. Another one of those foxy choices.

fair enough, but pilate is also playing that same function, isnt it?

now im wondering where Happy when i'm cryin would work on Vitalogy

great

if red dot is useless then so is "heyfoxymophandlemama, that's me"

stip wrote:

lvc wrote:The case I'd make for Red Dot is this:

It is an important part of Pearl Jam's DNA to, quoting Wendell Berry, "be like the fox who makes more tracks than is necessary, some in the wrong direction". If Yield is the culmination of the cycle of Pearl Jam's career--meteoric rise to fame, furious nervous breakdown, hard-headed retreat until you're far enough from the center of attention to relax--then Red Dot is a little reminder that they'll still do something irritating just to piss people off.

But it's only a minute and it's way more lighthearted than Bugs. It made the record because Yield is an album telling a story, not a playlist of great songs.

As for Pilate, it used to be my least favorite. But I kind of like it coming after the Wishlist fade out of "I wish I was the radio song" and before Do the Evolution which was the radio song. Another one of those foxy choices.

fair enough, but pilate is also playing that same function, isnt it?

Pilate for me is maybe more like an Aye Davanita meets a less on-the-nose WMA. More of a breather than a fly in the ointment.