Red Mosquito

You may be right, stip, but if that's the case, I wish the band would have less caveats on what their songs, sound and shows need to be. Taking all that into account, it would seem like they've pigeonholed themselves into an unnecessarily narrow lane, in terms of what they're capable of and what the band could be.

No argument here.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I fully admit that I view the PRAMG label as funny way to disparage a relatively shitty period of the band's discography. For me, it really has nothing to do with anything beyond the music being uninteresting.

Ok, maybe I should make myself more clear. I vote for PRAMG to be changed to PSTSF. The Post-Self-Titled Suck Fest. That way we avoid the unfair money grab reference AND the false assumption that S/T is shite just because it's part of the post-Riot Act era. In other words, S/T DOES NOT SUCK!!!

Feels like they view themselves more as entertainers now rather than artists.

That is what disappoints me. Yes, I still enjoy and love Pearl Jam, but I think they are capable of far greater things at this point in their career. Their legacy is cemented. I would like for them to challenge their own created status quo.

PBTTS - Post-Backspacer Turtle Turd Show
PALPL - Post-Avocado Lolli-Pop Licks
PMOTHSITS - Post-Man of the Hour Shits in the Shower

hlniv wrote: PMOTHSITS - Post-Man of the Hour Shits in the Shower

Brilliant.

PJBAMASWHHF(Post Jeff Becoming a Middle Aged Snob Who Hates His Fanbase)

stip wrote:Pearl Jam concerts are in some ways more analogous to interactive symphonies. They don't play music, they conduct the orchestra.

I think I'm going to be sick.

I don't know how broadly that kind of interactive experience translates beyond the shows in the US, even to shows that aren't in the northeast US. From personal experience, I think the amount of hardcore fans who know every b-side intimately and are members of the Ten Club and so on at the Australian shows is very small and I'd imagine that's the same in Europe too.

interesting question. What have people outside the US seen?

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know how broadly that kind of interactive experience translates beyond the shows in the US, even to shows that aren't in the northeast US. From personal experience, I think the amount of hardcore fans who know every b-side intimately and are members of the Ten Club and so on at the Australian shows is very small and I'd imagine that's the same in Europe too.

I though everybody sang every single word PLUS sang sing-a-longs PLUS sang guitar riffs in the South America shows.

Leatherhead wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know how broadly that kind of interactive experience translates beyond the shows in the US, even to shows that aren't in the northeast US. From personal experience, I think the amount of hardcore fans who know every b-side intimately and are members of the Ten Club and so on at the Australian shows is very small and I'd imagine that's the same in Europe too.

I though everybody sang every single word PLUS sang sing-a-longs PLUS sang guitar riffs in the South America shows.

The South American shows seem to be their own unique experience, quite distinct from the kind of thing I think happens at shows in Boston, New York, Philadephia, etc.

I suspect it also reflects the culture of the crowds at those shows more than it does any special relationship created by the band, it was something that was apparent from their first shows down there.

The South American shows are also pretty hits-heavy by comparison, I think.

it would be impressive if they were singing the music to Black Red Yellow

Or the Dennis Rodman voicemail.

Kevin Davis wrote:The South American shows are also pretty hits-heavy by comparison, I think.

Yeah, what really isnt my cup of tea.

The sing along thing seems to be a rather common phenomenon here, not just in Pearl Jam concerts, there seems to be some kind of rivalry about "being the best crowd" between different countries.

I've been listening to this sequence quite often over the last two weeks, and I really like it. The flow is very solid, and that was my main focus. It's a really enjoyable listen. It would've made a really great album.

01. Pendulum
02. Unemployable
03. Army Reserve
04. Lightning Bolt
05. Infallible
06. Cold Confession
07. Yellow Moon
08. Marker in the Sand
09. Let It Ride
10. Man of the Hour
Hidden Track: 10 Billion Years

Man of the hour
The End
Come Back
Speed of sound (acoustic)
Gonna see my friend
Mind your manners
Pendulum
Getaway
Inside job
Unthought known

God, it was really hard to find songs post-Riot Act that I genuinely love. I only actually "love" the top 4 here. The rest are just the best of a bad bunch...

samiad wrote:Man of the hour
The End
Come Back
Speed of sound (acoustic)
Gonna see my friend
Mind your manners
Pendulum
Getaway
Inside job
Unthought known

God, it was really hard to find songs post-Riot Act that I genuinely love. I only actually "love" the top 4 here. The rest are just the best of a bad bunch...

I'd put maybe 3 of these in my PRAMG top 10.