Red Mosquito

Strat wrote:

liebzz wrote:

Hatfield wrote:In 2000 Stone said that it isn't until the 10th show of a tour that they really get heated up and now by the 10th show the tour is wrapping up.

To me, this sounds like Stone Gossard talking about touring a new album, and getting kinks out of the new songs and with that getting into rhythm as a band. They haven't toured a new album in a while, so I am not sure that this would still apply in Stone's mind.

I do agree, however, that they should consider longer tours, especially since it seems like a big waste of both their resources and natural resources to get all that gear and the touring machine roaring for a few shows here and there every year.

Not if those shows include big festivals and massive arenas to maximize the buck. It probably doesnt do them good to go to out of the way shows like they used to do with ticket prices at $50

I must admit that I have no idea what festivals pay for their headliners.

liebzz wrote:

Strat wrote:

liebzz wrote:

Hatfield wrote:In 2000 Stone said that it isn't until the 10th show of a tour that they really get heated up and now by the 10th show the tour is wrapping up.

To me, this sounds like Stone Gossard talking about touring a new album, and getting kinks out of the new songs and with that getting into rhythm as a band. They haven't toured a new album in a while, so I am not sure that this would still apply in Stone's mind.

I do agree, however, that they should consider longer tours, especially since it seems like a big waste of both their resources and natural resources to get all that gear and the touring machine roaring for a few shows here and there every year.

Not if those shows include big festivals and massive arenas to maximize the buck. It probably doesnt do them good to go to out of the way shows like they used to do with ticket prices at $50

I must admit that I have no idea what festivals pay for their headliners.

I dont either but i imagine its a much sweeter deal than putting a show on yourself.

liebzz wrote:

Strat wrote:

liebzz wrote:

Hatfield wrote:In 2000 Stone said that it isn't until the 10th show of a tour that they really get heated up and now by the 10th show the tour is wrapping up.

To me, this sounds like Stone Gossard talking about touring a new album, and getting kinks out of the new songs and with that getting into rhythm as a band. They haven't toured a new album in a while, so I am not sure that this would still apply in Stone's mind.

I do agree, however, that they should consider longer tours, especially since it seems like a big waste of both their resources and natural resources to get all that gear and the touring machine roaring for a few shows here and there every year.

Not if those shows include big festivals and massive arenas to maximize the buck. It probably doesnt do them good to go to out of the way shows like they used to do with ticket prices at $50

I must admit that I have no idea what festivals pay for their headliners.

500,000 - 1,000,000

liebzz wrote:

Hatfield wrote:In 2000 Stone said that it isn't until the 10th show of a tour that they really get heated up and now by the 10th show the tour is wrapping up.

To me, this sounds like Stone Gossard talking about touring a new album, and getting kinks out of the new songs and with that getting into rhythm as a band. They haven't toured a new album in a while, so I am not sure that this would still apply in Stone's mind.

I do agree, however, that they should consider longer tours, especially since it seems like a big waste of both their resources and natural resources to get all that gear and the touring machine roaring for a few shows here and there every year.

His statement was in response to releasing the entire tour on cd. He talked about being embarrassed about how some shows sound because it takes them 10 shows to get in the groove, but that he knew the fan base wanted to hear the shows, warts and all.

Hatfield wrote:Playing the stadium shows in Australia is the bands biggest mistake in my opinion. Those people who've given Pearl Jam some of their best shows get some football stadium shows?! That isn't the band I grew up loving and it still shocks me that they care so much about playing to as many people as they can in the shortest amount of shows.

Yeah, I really hope that doesn't happen again.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Hatfield wrote:Playing the stadium shows in Australia is the bands biggest mistake in my opinion. Those people who've given Pearl Jam some of their best shows get some football stadium shows?! That isn't the band I grew up loving and it still shocks me that they care so much about playing to as many people as they can in the shortest amount of shows.

Yeah, I really hope that doesn't happen again.

And yet these were easily the best shows of the 2009 tour. It's too bad you couldn't have had them in much smaller venues.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Hatfield wrote:Playing the stadium shows in Australia is the bands biggest mistake in my opinion. Those people who've given Pearl Jam some of their best shows get some football stadium shows?! That isn't the band I grew up loving and it still shocks me that they care so much about playing to as many people as they can in the shortest amount of shows.

Yeah, I really hope that doesn't happen again.

Yeah, only about the first 10 rows could even see anything. Everyone else in the stadium was pretty much watching the screens. Every single seat ticket was too far away to even be able to tell if anyone was on the stage.

Billy Corgan was way pissed about that.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Hatfield wrote:Playing the stadium shows in Australia is the bands biggest mistake in my opinion. Those people who've given Pearl Jam some of their best shows get some football stadium shows?! That isn't the band I grew up loving and it still shocks me that they care so much about playing to as many people as they can in the shortest amount of shows.

Yeah, I really hope that doesn't happen again.

Is your compilation of that tour still online Spenno?
Never managed to grab it.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Hatfield wrote:Playing the stadium shows in Australia is the bands biggest mistake in my opinion. Those people who've given Pearl Jam some of their best shows get some football stadium shows?! That isn't the band I grew up loving and it still shocks me that they care so much about playing to as many people as they can in the shortest amount of shows.

Yeah, I really hope that doesn't happen again.

Is your compilation of that tour still online Spenno?
Never managed to grab it.

I don't think so, I think it died with Megaupload.

If you can wait, I might rework it at some point soon.

One assumes that the thread is about Ole.

Speaking of which, I've been meaning to ask: was there ever a FLAC version of Olé available?

I know it was only available from the 10C in a free MP3 download, but was there ever any radio promo discs floating around (for example)?

If I can ask a favour Spenno, will you leave Force of nature on there if you rework it, please?

I've never heard it at all live or on bootleg and I'm eager to hear a good boot version.
Thanks in advance!

dimejinky99 wrote:If I can ask a favour Spenno, will you leave Force of nature on there if you rework it, please?

Sent you an email.

Thanks fella!

1. "Model, role model, roll some models in blood...get some flesh to stick so they look like us." Or, marry one. To quote my brother, "If 1994 Ed met 2011 Ed, he would punch him in the face!"
2. Boom. Really? 10 years later and he's still there?
3. Ole
4. 1 month tours, although I guess at 48-50, that's all they can manage now.
5. Touring Europe. Every fucking year since '06. And pretty much ignoring the south and the west. And everywhere except Boston, Philly and Chicago.
6. Touring South America AGAIN before touring the south. Or the west.


I'm glad Soundgarden got back together. And AIC for that matter. Fuck off, PJ. It's my longest touring drought ever and I don't miss you.

Hatfield wrote:

Heathen wrote:
In 2000 Stone said that it isn't until the 10th show of a tour that they really get heated up and now by the 10th show the tour is wrapping up.

It was Jeff said that. Not Stone. We've always known Jeff wants longer tours. Stone, not so much.

TortureFollowsReward wrote: 5. Touring Europe. Every fucking year since '06. And pretty much ignoring the south and the west. And everywhere except Boston, Philly and Chicago.

Nah, the bastards skipped 08 & 11.