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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:41 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
The only song I don’t care for on Riot Act is Love Boat Captain. I’ve even come to really like Bushleaguer; maybe not a song I seek out on its own, but fits wonderfully on a full album listen. Thumbing My Way is decent, but also not one I seek out. I love Arc coming in between 1/2 full and All or None. I don’t consider it “fat” because it ties things so well thematically and atmospherically. Only other complaint is that is with Save You; while it’s a great song, it suffers most from how Ed sings and how the guitars sound on the album.
I’m having a riot act renaissance lately. I put it above Binaural. Probably their most underrated album.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:47 pm
by stip
im very lukewarm on lbc, too
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 5:52 pm
by Anders
LBC is excellent. A true gem.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 7:55 pm
by Tj
So it's actually titled Love Boat Captain.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 8:00 pm
by dad
uh oh.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 8:13 pm
by epilogue
Riot Act is literally perfect as is. There's no need to drop/change/reorder/adjust/cut/add anything.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 8:51 pm
by tommy
epilogue wrote:Riot Act is literally perfect as is. There's no need to drop/change/reorder/adjust/cut/add anything.
I listened to it this afternoon and you are correct.
I love the outtakes, but they don't fit on the album.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 8:53 pm
by Tj
I love the vibe of Riot Act 25 percent of the songs suck. So to me it is a missed opportunity.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 9:57 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Funnily enough I used to dislike the morose vibe of the album, but I love it now. Of all the albums, this one I’ve come to love even more years later.
Can we also acknowledge the heroes of that album, Jeff and Matt, for writing some of the best songs on it: Help Help, 1/2 Full, Cropduster, You Are, not to mention Ghost and Get Right.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:04 pm
by VinylGuy
Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:05 pm
by igotworms
First half of Riot Act is fire. It's all over the shop the latter half. No flow to it whatsoever.
My feeling is they should have stuck another couple of tracks on it and made it a double album. Double albums are designed to have that everthing-and-the-kitchen-sink vibe. It's just weird on a normal album.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:10 pm
by igotworms
VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.
I echo all of this. And the delivery of those lyrics are so good too.
There's a discussion on another thread about the virtues (or lack thereof) of Seven O'clock and its lyrics and delivery. LBC is how you get it right.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:19 pm
by Anders
VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:44 pm
by guitar_davey
VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.
Same. Also:
If our lives became too long
Would it add to our regret
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 10:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:How are you gonna say "trim the fat" and then keep Arc
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA
YAAAAAAoooooeeeeeyyyyyhuuuuuaaa
I love Arc but I still laughed
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:00 pm
by Ms Harmless
you do not simply "retrack" Riot Act
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:13 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:53 pm
by VinylGuy
guitar_davey wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.
Same. Also:
If our lives became too long
Would it add to our regret
yeah, and how special were those lines back then coming from Roskilde? damn pretty powerful.
Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 12:20 am
by guitar_davey
VinylGuy wrote:guitar_davey wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Im a huge fan of LBC. Everything works for me, the band is super tight and Ed´s voice is filled with emotion while he is also showing that good old restraint he had around that era or No Code.
Also
And the young, they can lose hope
'Cause they can't see beyond today
The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
Constant recoil
Sometimes life don't leave you alone
Thats among my favorite lyrics from any band ever.
Same. Also:
If our lives became too long
Would it add to our regret
yeah, and how special were those lines back then coming from Roskilde? damn pretty powerful.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 12:58 am
by Thurman Murman
Fattie_Vedder wrote:The only song I don’t care for on Riot Act is Love Boat Captain. I’ve even come to really like Bushleaguer; maybe not a song I seek out on its own, but fits wonderfully on a full album listen. Thumbing My Way is decent, but also not one I seek out. I love Arc coming in between 1/2 full and All or None. I don’t consider it “fat” because it ties things so well thematically and atmospherically. Only other complaint is that is with Save You; while it’s a great song, it suffers most from how Ed sings and how the guitars sound on the album.
I’m having a riot act renaissance lately. I put it above Binaural. Probably their most underrated album.
God damn Love Boat Captain is arguably my favorite song on the whole album.